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Okay - so get this: I am totally not fired. At least for now. I am just taking comfort in podcasts - I so totally love podcasts right now. Feel free to pimp your favorites to me as I am in a very receptive mood.

So, I finally check my email today and I get an alert from [livejournal.com profile] fahrbotdrusilla that she came across a Buffy/Spike vid to the song "Closer" and halfway through she noticed that the vidder was using stolen clips from one of her vids and one of mine. I think the big giveaway that she is using clips from my vid? The huge, honking "HT" bug in the lower right corner. Chickadee not only stole clips from a vid of mine, she stole clips and edits from my vid "Closer" for her vid "Closer" which on a strictly artistic scale sucks ass. Seriously - waaay too long and all dramatic tension she has built up is spoiled when Buffy cuts her hair in fast motion.

Melodramatic hair-cutting is hard enough to pull off without inducing giggles. Making it all fast-forwardy? Just wrong. Sadly, these are life lessons it doesn't appear the youth of today is getting. I fear for the future. Well, that and don't steal from a fellow fan.

[livejournal.com profile] fahrbotdrusilla emailed her about the clip theft and apparently she didn't take edits from us as we took edits from Joss...or something, I think she is pulling out that argument. Also, I think she thinks that I have a penis. Maybe she meant someone else was "he" - like Jesus.

I'd be mad if the clip theft was not so fucking obvious. I mean really - we bugged the vid with the "HT" (for headtilt - I used to have a website at headtilt.com) because of clip theft and now it is just -- wow. I am dying. I think this is cracking me up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmO3Bshy6c0

Date: 2006-01-21 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
WTF? She used a clip that still says HEADTILT ON IT.

WTF??

Jesus. Kids today, Sisabet. Kids today.

Hm. I'm in an angry mood. Lemme at her.

Date: 2006-01-21 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
Hee - what I wish? She had kept the dedication page for you and Jess. That would have been so fucking funny.

Date: 2006-01-21 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
Aw, man. That woulda ROCKED!

Date: 2006-01-21 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ely-jan.livejournal.com
*blinks* Gah! Blatant little thing, huh? Damn. What she lacks in talent and creativity of her own, she makes up for in balls big enough to steal from others?

Lovely.

Date: 2006-01-21 05:19 am (UTC)
settiai: (Settiai -- taraljc)
From: [personal profile] settiai
*blinks*

Okay, that's just sad.

Date: 2006-01-21 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
That's what I thought! Besides cracking up at the obviousness of it all, it is really really sad.

Like indicative of the breakdown of society and maybe she didn't have good parents or even a good parent or maybe she was just born stupid or maybe someone dropped her on her head or maybe she misstimed crossing the street one day and got hit by a truck or maybe her mother drank while she was pregnant or maybe she is a Cylon and I got it all wrong and they are actually, terminally stupid.

God, I hope the cylons have a good plan, cause otherwise I am wasting so much of my mental time on them...oh right - we are not talking about BSG. Meh - this chick, what can you say? Let us discuss Six instead.

Date: 2006-01-21 05:24 am (UTC)
ext_14312: (fanart bitch)
From: [identity profile] linzeestyle.livejournal.com
Also, I think she thinks that I have a penis.

You mean you don't keep one stored in tupperwear under your computer like the rest of us?

That video is just *sad,* really. The BIG HT IS KIND OF A GIVEAWAY.

In my head this person is fourteen. *Please* tell me this person is fourteen. Because if there is an actual adult somewhere going 'its not steaaaaaling you stooole alreaaaaady' then I may weep.

Linzee

Date: 2006-01-21 05:30 am (UTC)
fahrbotdrusilla: Irulan’s ridic costume (Jossverse Math)
From: [personal profile] fahrbotdrusilla
In my head this person is fourteen. *Please* tell me this person is fourteen. Because if there is an actual adult somewhere going 'its not steaaaaaling you stooole alreaaaaady' then I may weep.


I was thinking 15 when I talked to her! She said she'd been vidding FOREVER and KNOWS all these laws (water marking is against copyright laws). Also that she ripped everything except those clips, because they were just what she wanted...

Date: 2006-01-21 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
Well, yeah, they were just what she wanted - how many freaking hours did it take us to get them edited to be just what we wanted?

Thank you for emailing me. She is such a cliched clip thief she is almost quaint.

Date: 2006-01-21 02:51 pm (UTC)
fahrbotdrusilla: Irulan’s ridic costume (BSG - Six "preditor")
From: [personal profile] fahrbotdrusilla
how many freaking hours did it take us to get them edited to be just what we wanted?


Exactly!

Thank you for emailing me.


No problem, I love your sense of humor, do you mind if I friend you? You probably wouldn't want to friend me back but I like to ask first before I friend anyone.

Date: 2006-01-21 05:43 am (UTC)
ext_14312: (I'm with stupid.)
From: [identity profile] linzeestyle.livejournal.com
If she could rip the others WHY THE HELL couldn't she rip the ones she stole?

My God. My brain hurts. Hopefully the fact that now five zillion people have seen her video and all gone 'omgwtfpolarbear' will make her stop? Perhaps? Hopefully?

Okay, probably not.

Linzee

Date: 2006-01-21 02:52 pm (UTC)
fahrbotdrusilla: Irulan’s ridic costume (AD - "he stole")
From: [personal profile] fahrbotdrusilla
If she could rip the others WHY THE HELL couldn't she rip the ones she stole?


That’s what *I* say whenever a clip thief has given me that line.

Date: 2006-01-21 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
Her myspace thing says she's 14. You win the kewpie doll.

But she's been VIDDING FOREVER OMG. Since she was like, 12!

What is wrong with kids, today, Linz??? Hmph!

Date: 2006-01-21 05:59 am (UTC)
ext_14312: (see spike)
From: [identity profile] linzeestyle.livejournal.com
Well now I'm completely weirded out by the fact I just watched a video where Buffy/Spike sex scenes were set to a song about 'fucking like an animal' that was made by a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD. Is that wrong of me?

The Internets: Where "Forever" Translates to "Since Last Wednesday."

Linzee

Date: 2006-01-21 06:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
According to her home page she is 17.

Date: 2006-01-21 06:05 am (UTC)
ext_14312: (see spike)
From: [identity profile] linzeestyle.livejournal.com
Is her homepage on somewhere that has an age cutoff? Perhaps she lied to get an account?

Alright. I'll admit I'm just hoping she's younger than that. Because at seventeen *I* knew that stealing was bad, mkay? So should she.

Kids today. :gets cane:

Linzee

Date: 2006-01-21 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
I don't think it's wrong. Frankly, it freaks me out too. I don't think I would have understood the song Closer at age fourteen. Every time I think about teenagers now, I just feel old.

Date: 2006-01-21 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
I'm wondering what kind of 14 year old in 2006 is listening to "I Need A Hero" and "Closer" and "Let's Go Crazy" -- all of these songs are older than she is.

Do you think she's a sockpuppet?

Date: 2006-01-21 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
Do you think she's a sockpuppet?
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hunh. Interesting. I dunno, my son (who is only 9) assures me that "heavy metal" music is popular at his school. "I like really old music", he says. *headdesk*

Date: 2006-01-21 06:30 pm (UTC)
ext_6848: (Default)
From: [identity profile] klia.livejournal.com
Geez, what's *not* to understand about "I want to fuck you like an animal?" At 14, I sure as heck knew what that meant! *g*

Date: 2006-01-21 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
All girls religious school birth to 15. I don't think I knw what fuck meant. As for the song, turns out it's really about heroin addiction. What a bummer.

Date: 2006-01-21 09:13 pm (UTC)
ext_6848: (Default)
From: [identity profile] klia.livejournal.com
All girls religious school birth to 15. I don't think I knw what fuck meant.

Big city public school; at 14, I knew people who were having sex. I couldn't look at the vid (the link is now dead), but someone (Lum?) commented that, on "You let me penetrate you," she had Spike doing that to Buffy, which seems to indicate she understands about sex.

And really, that's one aspect of LJ that's really starting to freak me out: coming into contact with so many *kids* who are into the same things I am. In my mind, I'm still in the same adults only playground, that happened to move from lists to LJ, but every once in a while something like this happens and really knocks my perception sideways.

As for the song, turns out it's really about heroin addiction. What a bummer.

Yep, that's what happens when heroin addicts write music. I love Nirvana, but a lot of KC's stuff is about that, too.

Date: 2006-01-21 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
Oh this kid isn't into LJ. She is over at myspace with all the other kids (and really? I do NOT get the whole myspace thing).

And yeah - when I was 12 there were girls in my class at school who were pregnant so I would have understood what the lyric meant. I just wouldn't have been comfortable with it or really understood it.

Date: 2006-01-21 10:24 pm (UTC)
ext_6848: (Default)
From: [identity profile] klia.livejournal.com
Oh this kid isn't into LJ.

Not her, but others. I run into *lots* of kids on LJ.

Date: 2006-01-21 05:29 am (UTC)
wolfling: (ripperglare)
From: [personal profile] wolfling
You know it takes a special kind of stupid to not only steal clips from one of the most well known BtVS/Angel vids out there, clips that are clearly marked, but to use the same frigging song.

And yes on the melodramatic hair cutting in fast forward, although the clip that made me giggle the most was the fast forward shagging up against the pillar in the house they bring down. Fast forward shagging is just wrong.

The stupid... it burns...

(and it probably says something that every time I hear Closer now, I'm expecting the Spike and Angel voice overs "Cause it's always got to be blood..." "I'm not an animal" and it sounds wrong when I don't here them.)

Date: 2006-01-21 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
I actually kinda wish that she had stolen my song edits as well cause really - waaaay too long. I mean, I think my Closer is actually too long (but I was too wrapped up in it to cut more) but it is a good 2 and half minutes shorter than this. Sad. Just sad.

Date: 2006-01-21 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beloved4always.livejournal.com
well, I left a comment coz this kind of shit royally pisses me off. It's happened to us twice but both times the thieves admitted they were wrong, took down the vids and apologized profusely. But this chick doesn't sound like she has even an ounce of integrity (or possibly she doesn't know what the word means since she probably never had it on a vocabulary test - lol).

Date: 2006-01-21 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dualbunny.livejournal.com
::clutches head::

At least that kind of stupid speaks for itself. It was sort of like she needed all nearly seven minutes of the song so that she could fit every bad vidding cliche into it.

::clutches head all over again just thinking of the "HT"s::

Date: 2006-01-21 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] askye.livejournal.com
That really sucks. I didn't see Buffy cutting her hair, I waited until I saw your clips and then bailed. I was thinking maybe she just used a tiny bit with HT on it hoping it wouldn't get noticed but damn that was blantant. That is a seriously lame vid.

Date: 2006-01-21 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
Oh, later on she uses the sequence from the whole "It's always the blood" bit. The entire thing, almost. It works better in my vid.

Date: 2006-01-21 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodypoetry.livejournal.com
Wow. This is....Hee!

I totally think she's taken some of mine too. Too bad I never learned to watermark before recently.

Date: 2006-01-21 07:23 am (UTC)
luminosity: (walk 2 miles)
From: [personal profile] luminosity
Hey, did you notice that when the lyric is "I wanna penetrate you," Spike is penetrating Buffy? How AVANT-GARDE!

I think the HT makes it charming. Do you think this calls for Molotov Cocktails or just an email to her mother (who, I'm sure, is a crone of 33 or so)?

Date: 2006-01-21 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodypoetry.livejournal.com
I'm sending polietly worded emails with helpful links. So far though, not much more that "You're stealing, I'm stealing, she's stealing, so why does it matter, blah blah..."

Date: 2006-01-21 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
Hey - do you have her email address? I have searched all over and can't find it. I think I need to explain *exactly* why it is upsetting to her.

Date: 2006-01-21 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodypoetry.livejournal.com
I actually don't have her address. I've been sending her emails through her myspace account, since I have one as well. Heh. Now she wants to be my friend....:\ I also linked her to [livejournal.com profile] tzikeh's why clip theft is wrong post.

Date: 2006-01-21 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
You are soooo amazingly patient.

Date: 2006-01-21 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodypoetry.livejournal.com
I am Fandom Mommy, hear me roar. Hee

::rolling eyes::

Date: 2006-01-21 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurashapiro.livejournal.com
You know, at this point, you've just gotta laugh. I'm glad you're not too upset about this because, wow, really not worth it. It's too pathetic.

Victory?

Date: 2006-01-21 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodypoetry.livejournal.com
Email from her:

Well, alright. I did read your blog post the first time you emailed me. I already said I'll take out her edited clips. I just worked really hard on that video too, and its going to take me a few days to download the scenes I need from limewire in order to replace the scenes I'll take out that she edited. I hope thats okay. I just don't want to fuck up the video right now lol. But I will fix it. I use to have some pretty awesome videos that I made using no one else's clips but my own. But there came a time when my computer crashed, thus losing all of the Buffy/Angel episodes I downloaded and had saved for future vidding. So ever since then its been a killer pain in the neck trying to locate just the right clips I needed to express what I wanted fans to see in my video. I got upset and just snipped up some of Sisabets clips of Spike because I liked her video and had it saved on a disk. But, now since everyone is so upset about it, I won't do it again. But as said I will fix it. This is the first time I've ever used someone else's work in one of my videos.

Re: Victory?

Date: 2006-01-21 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Um... Rip them off DVDs, anyone? Seriously, my 15-year-old niece has gotten into vidding (anime), and she would never steal anybody else's clips. Cause she has a BRAIN...

Re: Victory?

Date: 2006-01-21 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazywritinfool.livejournal.com
Um... Rip them off DVDs, anyone? Seriously, my 15-year-old niece has gotten into vidding (anime), and she would never steal anybody else's clips. Cause she has a BRAIN...

Date: 2006-01-21 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valancy.livejournal.com
Re: clip theft: sigh. Some peoples is dumb. But everyone *does* want to be you, oh great vidder. :) Seriously, I have been heavy-watching all my favorite vids, and for so many of them, I have to admit, my brain has been leaning in the "geez, this used to be...cooler?" direction. For yours, every time, it's something along the lines of "Hot DAMN I forgot how good this is...can't everyone be sisabet"?

Anyhow...fangirl squee. *G*

Date: 2006-01-21 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ozonebaby.livejournal.com
....and just HOW does the original NIN video footage fit into the whole Buffy/Spike montage? *shakes head*

Date: 2006-01-21 06:43 pm (UTC)
ext_6848: (Default)
From: [identity profile] klia.livejournal.com
I'm wondering what kind of 14 year old in 2006 is listening to "I Need A Hero" and "Closer" and "Let's Go Crazy" -- all of these songs are older than she is.

Thank you! (You do mean "Holding Out for a Hero," right? *g*) I was wondering that, myself. Proof that, in addition to being a thief (and knowing it!), she has zero imagination.

Date: 2006-01-22 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birgitm.livejournal.com
I saw someone's icon (wish I could remember whose) that just fits this perfectly: The Stupid. It burrrrns.

Date: 2006-01-22 07:27 am (UTC)
permetaform: (::wtf!::)
From: [personal profile] permetaform
::boggle:: eeeesh

::hugs and a high five for your superior brain and maturity::
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