GIP!!!

[sisabet]

Changed out my default icon to this lovely made by catatonic1242 - ain't he purty? And bitter? It is like we were separated at birth and he got all the good hair genes.

Also - Justin is Buffy. He is. I am not alone in thinking this. mintwitch says so.

I have a confession. I read the Whore!Justin fic yesterday. I did.

::is ashamed::

It hit so many kinks but was ultimately unsatisfying and yeah - part of that was the OOCness, but y'know - I'm used to that. I can skim right over the OOC and keep on going. I think part of my problem with it is that it just kind of skimmed over the darkness of the topic and then kept right on going. Pretty Woman was darker, y'know? And I really don't want to read Justin!Whore fic that is all sweetness and light and Brian is a secret cuddler. I don't want the ends all nice and wrapped up and everything is beautiful and the sky is gay. If I am reading kinkfic and it goes anywhere near that place (and you know what place I am talking about) it needs to hit it hard.

JMO, YMMV

Meanwhile - Justin continues to be scalped, but hell -don't be mad at me, wrenlet killed the poor boy for NaNoWriMo. She killed him and made him a reaper. Now he hangs out with Rube.

::loves Rube::

Comments

[wrenlet.livejournal.com]

skimmed over the darkness of the topic

*nodnodnod* That's it in a nutshell. Whore-fic is so dependent on certain plot devices and... erg. The tendency is to go for, "I'm taking money for sex, oh no, I'm a whore!" "No you're really not, it's okay!" And ignore, "I'm taking money for sex. It's illegal, it's dangerous, the longer I do it the greater the chance I'll end up arrested or dead...." Plus all the psychological ramifications of turning yourself into a commodity.

I hate when they cheat us out of the dark stuff *sigh* Magically!cuddly!Brian was just... the anti-bonus.

*giggles at you* Can't express how glad I am you're liking ReaperBoy. I will write every day, I will!

[sisabet.livejournal.com]

giggles at you* Can't express how glad I am you're liking ReaperBoy. I will write every day, I will!

I am so enjoying this story! I really am and I love, love, love NaNoWriMo cause you have to tell me more. It is mandatory! Yay!!

But seriously - as far as crossovers go - it can be a great idea or a terrible idea and a lot of that goes to the style of execution. Here you have taken the elements of "Dead Like Me" and applied them to a character that I am already conditioned to like and this "what if?" situation becomes more compelling because I know Rube (and you are writing a great Rube, btw. "Kiddo" - gah) and I know what is coming, but I can't wait to see how you apply it to Justin and Brian and the nature of grief (which DLM addresses so well) and the fact that - yeah - I can see Justin in this situation (he has a lot in common with George - well, actually not. But I like them both so it is interesting seeing him on George's journey because Justin was much more attached to life than she was). And then I think I'm catching some foreshadowing and looking forward to the inevitable reaper/Brian encounters cause that must happen. It's all dark and still not and I'm excited in the "what's gonna happen next" way of great serials.

Which is what the whore!fic did not do. And it is a very interesting concept and if worked to where you could plausibly see these characters interacting in this manner, it could have literally blown me away. As it was I was wanting something more - more depth, more angst - more, more, more - cause dude! Do you not see what happened?? This is huge! But alas, the conflict is dropped in favor of a neat ending and big issues were swept under the rug. It was much worse than Buffy Season 7 and I just can't abide that.

[wrenlet.livejournal.com]

But seriously - as far as crossovers go - it can be a great idea or a terrible idea

Hee! This was the idea that Would Not Go Away. And I poked at it and prodded it, and then later in the season... well, some stuff clicked into place in my head and it went from, "Oh, that's just silly" to "Hey, that could work."

Unlike my MoulinRouge!Justin idea, which never got past silly. Then eleveninches posted her vid and I was cured :D

(and you are writing a great Rube, btw. "Kiddo" - gah)

*wriggles happily*

I have to warn you, though... in fact, I oughta update the account info. This thing doesn't have a very well-defined "shape" to it, which is part of why I picked it for NaNoWriMo: I can just keep tossing words at the thing. I have an idea of the flow, ups and downs and various moments they'll hit on the way. And I have one idea for an ending, but... it's one I think I'll have to kinda earn, and I'm not sure that I will. So.

*antses* I'm so bad, I know. I'm apologizing ahead of time for a fic you've already told me you like, in case it suddenly becomes not-likeable. *sigh*

[sisabet.livejournal.com]

I have to warn you, though... in fact, I oughta update the account info. This thing doesn't have a very well-defined "shape" to it, which is part of why I picked it for NaNoWriMo: I can just keep tossing words at the thing. I have an idea of the flow, ups and downs and various moments they'll hit on the way.

Which is part of the fun of reading - who the hell knows what your characters are going to do - but you've picked a situation that is just dripping with so many potentials - and it is still Justin and talk about torture: that boy does not deserve to be a reaper. It is just so very sad, and yet... None of the reapers on the show actually deserve their fates - yeah George was not living her life so much as her life was happening around her, but she was just a kid. And now they have this kinda limbo thing happening and who knows where the next step is or the next plan - and a lot of that is because the DLM mythology is still unfolding, so there is room to play there as well.

I'm just enjoying the ride.

[josselin.livejournal.com]

I think part of my problem with it is that it just kind of skimmed over the darkness of the topic and then kept right on going.

Yeah. If I wrote Justin as a whore fic, it would have to have a sad or ambiguous ending. You know it.

[sisabet.livejournal.com]

You should write it.

[josselin.livejournal.com]

There is a large discrepancy between what I *should* write and what my current lifestyle *allows* me to write.

But if somebody's offering to be my patron and support me for the rest of my life, I'd probably have a lot more free time.

Yes, yes yes- write some Whore!Justin fic!!

[viola69.livejournal.com]

I want to see your take on this whole milieu!
(ohh, there's my vocab word for the day.)

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[josselin.livejournal.com]

I want to see your take on this whole milieu!

Did you see the summary I wrote, of my whore!fic idea? In the giant thread of my last post? That would be my take on it.

Hey, actually, Jenn and I were talking about this the other day, and *she* was trying to get me to write Justin-goes-to-New York-and-becomes-a-huster!fic.

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[viola69.livejournal.com]

I skimmed thru it & Oohhhhh!!! see I'd love to see your take on NYHustler!Justin- cause I've read a fic that covered that, too. *sigh* even less satisfying overall than the whore!Justin fic. It's like 10 years after Justin ran away to NY S1- & Brian runs into Justin who has by then become a successful artist/gallery owner(? hmm, fuzzy details) after years as hustler in streets of NY in the aftermath of Brian canceling his credit cards- & he's living with Daphne & together they are raising Molly's kid- (Molly & Justin's parents all died in tragic car accident)... Ohh, & Brian is raising Gus I think since Mel & Lindsey died in separate tragic car accident... How sad that I remember all this- & yes- when I win the lottery I will sponsor you & your writing while spending my days & nights stalking the cast & filming crew in Toronto with a digital camera & handy laptop. yes, that's what I'll do with my winnings.

Ahhh- after linking it- had to go-back & re-read- & then...

[viola69.livejournal.com]

had to start the sequel. *sigh* Poor!Justin. He gets whored-out & then stalked by a red-headed Hobbes. But he does get a new bed... & I just couldn't get through it before having to go to sleep & it's just not a good dream inspiring fic...
*THAT* kind of emotional torture & weakness just pains me more than scalping, blindness or tumors.

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[sisabet.livejournal.com]

There is a sequel??? Cause even though I was disappointed in the fic - I'll read the sequel. She had the elements that I wanted - just cheated the overall story. But I read it.

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[viola69.livejournal.com]

sequels also at Across the Pond- titled Spring something- it does bring up another Genre of torturing Justin- the Stalking!Justin fic.
& throws in some further Kinney family dysfunction which is Always fun & poor Justin & the mirrors. *sigh* There are further emotional ramifications from the whoring & the whole Brian dumped Justin trauma. BUT Justin does get to go on his King of Babylon Bahamas trip!

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[gradiva.livejournal.com]

The sequel is "Spring Fever" which is much, much better than "New Year" (the whore!Justin fic). They really do deal with some of the ramifications of the whoring... you just have to wait a bit. It's LONG. but the writing is much better than Polish.

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[wrenlet.livejournal.com]

*sigh* I read it. There was some Justin-trauma, and the mentioned stalking... but it was all about abandonment issues and not the whoring. Eh.

I'm declaring a moratorium on reading long non-Austrian fics for the rest of the month, even if people tell me they have my kinks in 'em.

[erinface.livejournal.com]

Yeah... I couldn't help myself either and I read the Justin!Whore fic. The kink was pretty good and of course we knew it was Brian all the time but I completely lost interest after we were confirmed that it was Brian. I was hoping for some weird motives and I hated the way Brian revealed himself.

[qafhappy.livejournal.com]

I have a confession. I read the Whore!Justin fic yesterday. I did.

Sounds like something I'd like to read. Where is it?

Thanks!