GIP!!!

[sisabet]

And I really should make a more substantive post - tell everyonhe about the move, my experiences with true love (all on TV of course), Mom reading Dawn's "I am Brian Kinney!" posts (including the friend's locked ones - thanks caphricacorn) and my dog becoming so traumatized by 4th of July fireworks a 1/2 mile away on the 3rd of July that he ran away and hid all night while I searched the perimeter of my parent's farm with a flashlight and Cappy. He is safe and sound now for at least another year , but it was quite the story! Oh - or all about the move and my semi-not-really nervous breakdown that actually turned out to be the bit of drama-queen I haven't grown out of still residing deep with in my psyche. I could tell ya'll about work and how I am now know as the "quiet" one and I sit huddled at my desk and get my job done in 2 hours because it is fucking boring but I still have to be there so I just sit. If the internet wasn't monitored closely, I would be happy. Also - back in a city where going for Mexican food is considered "exotic" - Dear Lord what was I thinking?

I could tell ya'll all about J's class reunion and him hooking up with the validictorian (that's my boy - going for brains over brawn. I swear he is so much more complex than me) or about the fact that I really do miss my Memphis people. Even the ones that got on my nerves. I could post about the smoking ban that the city of Lexigton just enacted - no smoking in any public places and how this seems to include not only the Cigar Bar but also the tobacco warehouses (Sorry Mr. Buyer from Brown & Williamson and Mr. Bidder from Philip Morris. Please buy our fabulous burley, but ya gotta go light that up outside). I mean - I understand limiting second-hand smoke and all - but c'mon. Exemptions people. Exemptions.

I could tell ya about the beautiful welcome wagon of the neighborhood boys that showed up on my doorstep last week - Todd and Kendell and apparently they are so pretty they made the apartment brochure. I don't think they even have to pay rent - just show up at various complex parties and say hi to the new people. Very, very pretty. I of course was unable to do more beyond gawking. I can gawk like a pro, though.

Instead I will say this: I love heres_luck and I love my new icon. It makes me happy. I'll also say that I was at turns enjoying and becoming extremely frustrated with recent events on Nummy Treat. I know I come off as a raging bitch there, so I don't know if any of my posts are taken seriously anymore - but dammit. I take this seriously. And I had to get bitchy - otherwise I would explode - but I want the group back that introduced me to Lum, and here's luck and renenet and Kamil and Jainie and Wendy and well - just about everyone. And it just doesn't look like it is gonna happen. Fuck. I know there is still Boot Camp but it is not the same. I learned so much from that list, but it just seems that the times are changing and the mentality of the majority of BtVS fan-vidders are going that way as well. I'm saddened by this - quality is not important, hard work is not emphasized, and apparently getting "hacked off" by someone chopping up your vid and claiming it as their own is just tacky. Telling people the truth is seen as insulting and the height of bad taste and becoming frustrated to answer the same damn question that bonibaru answered three fucking digests ago is just you being superior.

Well, Fuck That. Then I am superior. Shit. If superior means that I actually care about what I do - that I view vidding as an art and craft and taking the time to study and learn that craft is me acting all high and mighty well then look on up, cause there I be. I've been tired and frustrated before, but this is a completely new level. Maybe it is driven by the fact that I feel that I am moving beyond being a BtVS vidder - or at least running out of things to say. Other than a Xander project on hold and "Mission Temple Fireworks Stand" I have no future BtVS projects at all planned. AtS - yeah, I'm up to my eyeballs and armpits in that show and look forward to vidding it for years to come. But branching out - it is a good thing. There is a ton of shit I can do with "Queer as Folk" and I never gave my "Farscape" projects half a chance, really. So, maybe letting go of the group is kinda my way of moving on to other fannish endeavors - growing. Look at me with all the layers.

Also - I won't have to be bitter - which is not that attractive on me - I carry off bitter about as gracefully as Miss Havisham. Now where did I put that old wedding dress...

Comments

[luminosity]

Pet, pet, pet, pet.

As of last week, the only reason I'm on that list is to announce vids. I really like the list owner (waves) and several of the people there, but in all of my years in fandom (although it's not that many, but I'm a geezer by BTVS standards)m I've never received hate mail personally or been told "I don't like you anymore" until Buffy fandom. Even when I was into XF, that didn't happen (and I know that's a miracle in and of itself). I can look back, though, and be grateful for friendships that have come from vidding in Buffydom. What's sad is that, for every person who's become a friend, there seem to be four people who hate me now. They don't hate me so much that they won't watch my vids or steal from me, but yes, I'm also tedious, rude, elitist and a bitch.

As you know, I still have many Buffy vids swirling around in my head and hidden on my hard drive, but there's an element of wisdom in expanding from only one fandom into others. I'll continue to vid what interests me, whether people like me anymore or not. I'll continue to be an elitist bitch because I care about my finished product, and I care about tech and composition, and I'll continue to be tedious and rude because I can't let a naked emperor walk past me without commenting.

I'll comment on little sisters later. :)

[mrmonkeybottoms.livejournal.com]

Damn straight, sisabet!

p.s. IM me, you whore

Elitist Bitch Buffy Vidding Cabal Groupie

[coffeeandink.livejournal.com]

I have done ABSOLUTELY NO RESEARCH on this, so I may be completely wrong--but it seems to me that vidding is getting more widely known, and more popular, as a fan art form. So naturally it will attract more casual and more careless fans, people who think it's easy or should be easy, people who just want applause (as opposed to wanting applause as well as art, or wanting applause for the art, which are motivations I have no problem with).

For what it's worth, I admire your conviction, your honesty, and your willingness to call people on bad behavior.

And I'd love to see AtS or Farscape vids from you.

[truthseekersara.livejournal.com]

I heard about the conference in the Windy City! I'm so proud of you!

I had a job once where I could get all of my work done in 2 hours and then had to kill the rest of the day.
Options:
REALLY DRAG IT OUT. Stop and talk to people. Take coffee breaks. Debate font sizes, color schemes, etc.

Surreptitiously do other things that are not trackable by computer. Read novels. Write letters. Work on scripts for "Die Hard the Musical"!

Find a sneaky way onto the internet. Try "checkmyemail.com" or other programs like that.

Take long lunches. Volunteer for any off-site meetings, educational programs.

Good luck!

groupie icon if anyone wants to use it...

[elke-tanzer.livejournal.com]

I'm with you. I don't vid (yet?) but clip theft and other such bad behavior makes me ill.

Here's my groupie pledge: If and when I start vidding I promise I won't be a complete pain in the ass, and will read list and community archives before asking questions of more experienced vidders. And I will try to remember to send feedback more often, because it's the right thing for vid consumers to do.

[elke-tanzer.livejournal.com]

Everyone with one of these cabal icons showing up on my friends list is such an amazing vidder... I'm so sorry you all have been having to put up with mistreatment and confrontations by people who don't appreciate you.

Honestly, though? I look forward to whatever you folks create in other fandoms. The fannish world is a very big place, with plenty of room for you to have fun in other fandoms!

{{{hugs}}}

[boniblithe.livejournal.com]

I'll continue to be tedious and rude because I can't let a naked emperor walk past me without commenting.

AMEN SISTER

[boniblithe.livejournal.com]

Pip, pip!

[heresluck]

You referenced Dickens in your rant. My heart is yours.

If superior means that I actually care about what I do - that I view vidding as an art and craft and taking the time to study and learn that craft is me acting all high and mighty well then look on up, cause there I be.

Sing it, girlfriend.

I do still have some BtVS projects in mind, including a short one for this summer, but the ones really calling my name at the moment are the long-delayed Firefly vid and the I-still-don't-know-how-the-hell-I'm-gonna-do-it-but-dammit-I'm-doing-it LoTR vid. And that XF vid is still lurking in the back of my brain as well.

And I can't wait to see your new projects, whatever fandom they end up being.

[mlyn.livejournal.com]

If you're on linzeems's friend list, check out her rant. Or not, because you pretty much said THE EXACT SAME THING.

*Applauds*

[sisabet.livejournal.com]

Aw thanks - I'm not leaving NT either- I'm just stepping back and not letting it bug me anymore. I probably won't post anymore unless it is a vid notice and that kinda makes me sad - I'm lighting a candle. But it ain't worth it - I've got to much shit to do.

But I like you when you are rude - you can do rude and classy at the same time. It's a Southern Thang I suppose.


AIM me later - I want to see what you are working on...all of it. The PC keeps shutting down so I may be away - but here doing maintenance - you know the drill...

Re: Elitist Bitch Buffy Vidding Cabal Groupie

[sisabet.livejournal.com]

Thankn you - vidding is becoming more and more accessible - which is good on one hand - cause otherwise I wouldn't even be here - but, well you called it pretty accurately.

But I'm cool - vidding is now something I do - related to lists, fandoms or not - it is important to me in and of itself - the act of inspiration, creation and fulfillment. I dig it.

[sisabet.livejournal.com]

Yeah - my cubicle is pretty open and opens right up in front of the employee lounge which has a plus - easy access to the vending machine (there is diet mt dew there as well - happy day) but also means that I am the new girl with a constant stream of traffic interested in what is she doing in there.

I'm actually working on a series pilot script with Danya - lots of fun even if it is just for our benefit (helps with the ennui) - but if you happen to run into any Showtime of HBO producers in one of your high-powered fundraising jaunts - give me a holler ;)

Re: groupie icon if anyone wants to use it...

[sisabet.livejournal.com]

You can ask away - any question, anytime. Because you, I know, are cool - you aren't sitting back with a sense that somehow the other vidders have a resposibility to somehow magically impart shit that took us forever to puzzle out into your head with a blick of the eye. The thing is - I am excited once I figure something out about telling others - it is almost this religious fevor thing - but I just hate this attitude, this *entitlement* - and ugh. Not dwelling. But - if and when you do start - ask away. Please.

[sisabet.livejournal.com]

Oh Shit - Firefly!!! I forgot about FF! Once the DVDs come out - it's on. Heee - now I am all cheerful.

You liked the Dickens - I did it for ya'll.

[sisabet.livejournal.com]

Dude - love Linzee and missed that post - but she is so right on.

[luvs-phoenix.livejournal.com]

Rant on goddess, rant on.

::me hugs fellow mover::

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[mlyn.livejournal.com]

You both are. I'm glad that sort of irritation isn't really rampant in the pics section of fanart.

[just-eunice.livejournal.com]

I'm saddened by this - quality is not important, hard work is not emphasized, and apparently getting "hacked off" by someone chopping up your vid and claiming it as their own is just tacky. Telling people the truth is seen as insulting and the height of bad taste and becoming frustrated to answer the same damn question that bonibaru answered three fucking digests ago is just you being superior.

And that right there pretty much sums it up. *sigh*. Doesn't matter though.

We'll keep on vidding, and keep on working at getting better while this wave of idiots gets bored and moves on to torturing puppies or something for entertainment...and then there will be another wave of them, but more who take it seriously will come out of that...and on and so on and so on.

We've got staying power and ideas and vids from tons of different fandoms still to come. They've got the same tired Spuffy clip to the same tired Top 40 song. I think we've got the better end of the deal.

[kita0610.livejournal.com]

Um, girlfriend?

You ARE superior.

And there ain't no shame in knowing it.

[kitkatbyte.livejournal.com]

OK, now I feel bad, because as much as I want everyone to get along, I'm starting to realize how little I can do about it. I did make it a group rule not to steal clips. In fact, when I saw that [person] had written right next to her vid that she'd used clips from other vids, I immediately e-mailed her to make sure she'd gotten permission, which I'm sure she didn't. You see, if she had refused to fix the problem, I would have banned her from the group. I would have hating to do that, but those are the rules... "stop or be banned".

I think the real problem lies in the attitudes of some of the yournger, more casual vidders. I myself don't understand the need to pump out dozens of mediocre vids one after another, and I am growing tired of watching the same thing over and over. However, I find that the number of these types of vidders is growing, and they seem to be becoming the majority of the group.

That's not really what I want, but there's no way I would ever want to exclude anyone for "not being good enough"... I couldn't even if I wanted to. Truthfully, I'd take one "wow!" vid over 100 "eh" vids any day. But my hope is that one day these young "eh" vidders will grow up, and will learn to make "wow!" vids.

Suggestions? Do I need to put my foot down more? As Buffy would say, "My foot isn't used to being put down." But I can try.

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[sisabet.livejournal.com]

I do not envy you at all and I really like you and I liked the list - but it is being over-run with a more casual vidder and basically people that view this much more seriously are being told to take a flying leap. Which sucks as we are often the ones with experience and know-how to help out the newbies. Without this list I don't know that I would be the vidder I am - but the list has changed and it isn't your fault. There are floods of new Buffy vidders and more on the way over to Angel (gasp...that is gonna hurt) and they have no idea that this is a community and that there are standards of behavior and courtesy. That advice and experience are good things and not insults. That "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all" only leads to meaningless dreck when applied to feedback.

But my hope is that one day these young "eh" vidders will grow up, and will learn to make "wow!" vids.

See - I don't think the group as a whole is conducive to this anymore - and I have no earthly idea how to change that. I'm just really tired of coming off as the world's most bitter angry vidder bitch - which I am actually not - and shouting at a brick wall. I don't know what a list mod could do either. I do think discussion is good for the group and I think there are several people that view all forms of discussion and disagreements and debates as flames and attacks. I'm just tired of it.

If you want Firefly earlier

[aexia.livejournal.com]

I can bring all the episodes in SVCD format to the party. I've got 140+ blank CDs that aren't going to be touched for the next 7 months so I might as well do *something* with them.

Re: groupie icon if anyone wants to use it...

[elke-tanzer.livejournal.com]

Ah, but you see, if I ask questions that I can easily find the answers to on my own, and you folks generously respond, that means you're spending that time on me, and not on creating more incredibly amazing vids... which I am addicted to.

I value my suppliers! :-D And I'm so glad I've chosen healthy addictions.

*grin*

My big achievement this past winter/spring was to learn how to make animated gifs. I know they're annoying if done poorly, but sometimes a little animation applied properly is nice. Until I figure out more of the nuances of ImageReady, and for that matter, Photoshop since I still feel like I'm not using 90% of its capability... maybe then I'll be up to tackling Premiere. Gotta love .edu discounts!

I just found out that one of my new fave vids took the vidder a year of work and learning. I know one of my favorite fanfic authors has been working off and on intermittently on her epic for over eight years.

I have fanfics that I've been working on off and on for a few years, but jeeeez.

How much time do you folks usually spend on the wow-type vids? Now that you know the tools more than the newbie- or low-level familiarity, I mean.

Re: groupie icon if anyone wants to use it...

[sisabet.livejournal.com]

How much time do you folks usually spend on the wow-type vids?

Hmmm... depends on the vid and inspiration and source and free time and all that. I guess my wow-type vid would be "Closer" and that was a project in the works for six months. I wasn't working on it continuously during those six months - but it was something I looked at and thought about constantly. The main trouble was figuring out what the hell it was I wanted to say and I think that comes from forcing it - I wanted to make this vid - but I had no idea what it was about and that was my main hold-up. Other stuff just kinda hits you upside the head and you *know* - like "Cowboy" just took 3 weeks and "Peacemaker" even less time than that.