This Is Why I Vid...
Apr. 23rd, 2003 06:28 pmCause fanfiction is hard, yo.
Maybe I have been inspired by all the great fics that are coming out lately or maybe I am doing everything humanly possible to avoid working on "Essence"- but this morning I had a very nice little snippet of S/A in my head. I liked it and it did not suck (well - not a lot)- it was quiet and fit in my Lethal Weaponverse and I decided I would come home tonight and write it. I mean, I can write, right? I'm not gifted and a natural, but I am fairly well-spoken and I can express myself. And this morning the story was so clear.
*bangs head on keyboard*
I'm sleepy. And hungry. And the boy just called and I forgot to pick him up. And download Angel. I'll be back later. Something must get done tonight. I need to produce, dammit.
Maybe I have been inspired by all the great fics that are coming out lately or maybe I am doing everything humanly possible to avoid working on "Essence"- but this morning I had a very nice little snippet of S/A in my head. I liked it and it did not suck (well - not a lot)- it was quiet and fit in my Lethal Weaponverse and I decided I would come home tonight and write it. I mean, I can write, right? I'm not gifted and a natural, but I am fairly well-spoken and I can express myself. And this morning the story was so clear.
*bangs head on keyboard*
I'm sleepy. And hungry. And the boy just called and I forgot to pick him up. And download Angel. I'll be back later. Something must get done tonight. I need to produce, dammit.
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Date: 2003-04-23 04:56 pm (UTC)And, holy crap, vidding is so much harder! I can't even begin to grasp it.
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Date: 2003-04-23 06:19 pm (UTC)Tape Recorders: A Cautionary Tale
Date: 2003-04-23 08:03 pm (UTC)No really.
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Date: 2003-04-23 05:04 pm (UTC)But if I ever actually have a finished product, it is SO gonna rock. Or.. not. (what if I put all this work into it and it STILL sucks ass? *whimper*)
Um.. this seems like it's not so much a reply to your post and more... something else. Or it *is* a reply. I'm replying. Feel free to delete this.
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Date: 2003-04-23 05:46 pm (UTC)And don't worry about your reply, I understand where you are right now (been there meself) and I have a strict "no delete" policy.
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Date: 2003-04-23 05:27 pm (UTC)I support your fic writing, especially in the Lethal Weaponverse, because you're a dear, lovely woman (and the Lethal Weapon stuff cracks me up). But you are obviously flummoxed because you should be working on "Essence." There's no avoiding it. The Spuffy will haunt you wherever you go until you purge it from your very soul. Vid! Vid! Purge! Purge! If you would like to take your frustration with the Spuffy out on me by bitching at me about the content of my comments, you should feel free to do so. I'm signing on to AIM specially from work this evening just in case. Because I'm all about you, babe. And, okay, really I'm just goofing off like hell because work is slow. La la la...back to reading LJ and/or thinking about Birds of Prey vid songs (because that's how vapid I feel)...
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Date: 2003-04-23 05:42 pm (UTC)"Essence" needs to be spewed forth like so much Spuffy..um...spew. I will hunt you down tonight. As soon as I can bear to watch the thing again that is.
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Date: 2003-04-23 05:37 pm (UTC)No kidding. Last summer I tried, very briefly, to develop a couple of fic ideas out of sheer frustration at the lack of new Buffy eps. It was a terrible, terrible mistake that will not be repeated. Vidding is frequently difficult and often maddening, but at least I know what I'm doing.
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Date: 2003-04-23 09:51 pm (UTC)> In addition to all of which, I sort of tend to trust the writers about this stuff. They know
> the characters better than I do. That's one of the reasons I don't write fanfic.
in this essay (http://webpages.charter.net/heresluck/musings/asyouwere.htm) was a snark at the expense of fic. Like, ficcers think they know better than Joss; I don't presume that, I just vid.
Huh. I was nursing this whole vague resentment. I wrote an essay, in my head, about the difference between fic and vidding as two different kinds of fan texts, with different ways of exerting a kind of unauthorized ownership over the original text; and how since vidding uses actual clips from the show it might seem like it's less of a willfully fan thing than fic is (and therefore more of a mainstream thing than fic is)-- but that's not true, vidding really still does its own large share of imposing fan-decided meaning onto the original text, in a way that's subtler, and possibly even more ownership-stealing (exactly because it uses *actual clips from the show*), than fic. But. Hm. Okay.
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Date: 2003-04-24 06:46 am (UTC)Some ficcers *do* seem to think they know better than Joss. (And, hey, that's not always bad; the best fic I read in TXF *did* know better than Chris Carter, which, admittedly, isn't difficult.) But the fic I most enjoyed, during my very brief fic-reading stint, was the stuff that made me feel like I was watching the show -- like the writer loved the characters and had paid careful attention to them and was trying to present them in a way that was true to the show.
You're quite right that vids "impose fan-decided meaning" on the show, but the range of ways in which they can do this are necessarily more limited than the ways in which fic can do it. Vids, for the most part, are readings or interpretations of the show; fic is also an extension of the show, or a way of filling in the blanks the show leaves. (I think an argument could be made that Sisabet's "Closer" falls more into the latter category than the former, but I think we can all agree that "Closer" is a very unusual vid.)
My point about why I don't write fic was, in fact, entirely unironic and not meant as snarky. The kind of fic that I like requires (among other things) an ability to plot, an ability to represent a wide range of character voices (whether dialogue or POV), and an ability to get inside characters enough to make their motivations and actions believable and compelling (i.e. knowing them from the inside, not just their surface features). I can't do any of those things in a sustained way (although I have a great deal of respect for the people who *can* do them). The fact that I can't write good fic myself certainly doesn't mean that other people can't, or shouldn't; I'm sorry to have made a comment that could be interpreted that way.
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Date: 2003-04-24 07:05 am (UTC)And now you are treading on one of my big issues of this show - not exactly the show, but this particular fandom. IMO, it goes beyond "I don't care for this particular storyline" because nearly all of the discontent expressed about the show on any level is by the rabid Spike fans - the ones that hate Xander on principal (cause he hit their sweet baby, that bastard!)consider Buffy a bitch and like Anya cause she fucked him. The same people who want to throw themselves off a bridge after a Spike-lite episode. Uh - I remember season 3 when I was all about Angel and the B/A romance was the backbone of the show, there would be whole episodes where he was in a tiny scene or not present at all. The show was still good - that storyline just didn't advance much that week.
Damn I am late for work - I think I will abandon this train of thought, but I might pick it up again soon. I feel a rant coming on. I also have a Xander rant stored up close to my heart and since Dawn is tired of hearing me rail on his behalf, I might just type it up and post it.
Oh wait - my point is - I can't read shit written by that kind of fan. I have to feel like it is the show - or there are a lot of original novels out there I still haven' touched. I read fanfiction for the characters - not to support someone's agenda. I have been preached at enough in my life, thank you very much.
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Date: 2003-04-24 03:55 pm (UTC)But it was good... and I'm not just saying that because you're my fiancee.
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