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[sisabet]

Damn - I am glad I don't vid "Firefly" now. I've thought about it - I have some source and could get the rest... and I liked the show (more now even than when it aired) but if I ever do vid it - those vids will never be put online. At least not by me.

I've considered the whole password protected thing for the videos. I really have, it would simplify the bandwidth issues and would certainly cut out the problems with clip theft.. but I like having them posted and freely available and hearing from people that I don't know that they liked them, hated them - whatever - that they saw them - that is cool. But enough of this shit goes down and I will move the vids off the site - cause I want to keep making them more than I want to share them openly. And a C&D letter just would not be cool.

And if you are lost and have no idea what any of this is about, check out bonibaru's LJ. There really are no words. While you are at it - go add thoughts to http://www.livejournal.com/users/tzikeh/20127.html - tzikeh is trying to do something - which is cool.

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[elke-tanzer.livejournal.com]

I adore your vids. Have I mentioned that enough lately? Probably not.

And ugh. What a night.

[sisabet.livejournal.com]

thank you - and I know - I couldn't believe the latest development (asshole posting Nia's vids) when I woke up this morning - his site is down now, right?

[elke-tanzer.livejournal.com]

Yep. I wasn't one of those that contacted his ISP, but I've been on the case all night. The "discussion" with this guy is still ongoing on the two fireflyfans.net boards that I link to in my recent entries, though I think he finally went to sleep or offline a few hours ago.

Me, I've been up most of the night, off and on, for other reasons, so I've kept an eye on things and attempted to educate at every single available opportunity.

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[sisabet.livejournal.com]

Educating has become exasperating. I was recently told I was on a "bitter tirade" on a BtVS vidders list because I keep telling them that clip theft is unacceptable. I think some people get it - but there are the ones...you just want to shake them *hard* -Grrrrr. No respect at all. Some people's kids, y'know?

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

Educating has become exasperating.

Ain't it the truth. That's one of the things we hope to make easier with our Primer. God knows, we're probably tilting at windmills, as I said, but there's also that chance that it might actually become something that people can refer to.

[elke-tanzer.livejournal.com]

I don't blame you one bit for being exasperated with it. And yeah, some people's kids. And unfortunately, some people's parents. *sigh*

A bitter tirade? Day-em. That's pathetic of them.

But hey, as long as no one called you a midget, I might be one up on you tonight... but my sense of humor did survive intact, so far. I mean, jeez, the guy tried to insult everything from my sex life to Twinkies, all in one thread. Ya just can't make shit like that up.

[buffyx.livejournal.com]

I was recently told I was on a "bitter tirade" on a BtVS vidders list because I keep telling them that clip theft is unacceptable.

See, I don't get why people would want to clip theft anyway. Yeah, it saves space, but then your vid isn't even a statement, it's just a bunch of random clips to music. I've noticed that it's usually just the inexperienced vidder producing twenty vids a month to the latest Top Forty. You can tell who is stealing clips because they usually don't even do it subtly, they do it in huge chunks and sequences. It's just so blatantly obvious.

Just so you know, I don't think you're on any kind of so-called "bitter" tirade at all. I've read your posts on Nummy Treat and you make every kind of sense to me. It's something that needs to be said, because unfortunately it's something that runs way too rampant in the vidding communities. People need to be enlightened if they don't realize it's wrong.

[boniblithe.livejournal.com]

Sis, the thing is, it's probably not isolated to FF. That's just the one we happen to know about right now. What are the odds that some squeeing JM fangirl has burned a bunch of Spike vids to a CD and handed them to him at a con? Hmmmmmm?

Can you imagine someone giving him a copy of "Closer"? Hehehehe. He might be scarred for life.

I'm googling all my vids today, to see if I can find them anywhere they shouldn't be.

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[sisabet.livejournal.com]

What kinda idiot would hand over a copy of Closer...oh, I see your point...crap.

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[(Anonymous)]

Wow. I can't believe that somebody would put up their copies of someone else's vids after they were taken down. That's unbelievable.

Here's what I don't get - I don't really vid (one video made on WMM out of curiosity, to see what it's like, doesn't count, I think). But I still know, instinctively, that clip theft is wrong. Because it just is. And even if there's no issue with copyright, taking somebody else's work without their permission is wrong. Because it just is. I don't get these people.

I almost hyperventilated when you said you might take down your vids - aaagh! I love those vids. Whenever I get depressed I take out 'Cowboy' and 'Clint Eastwood' and watch them. The shot of Angel in 'Cowboy' walking into the elevator with his coat billowing out behind him never fails to make me smile. I can see why you might want to take down your vids, though, after what's happened. Thank you for making so many people happy with your great vids.

Imation

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[elke-tanzer.livejournal.com]

Hello there! BTW, any time I see a clued-in fan without a LJ, I tend to offer free codes... drop me an email with who you are and what email address to send to, and a code is yours. :-)

Three cheers for rationality!!!

[linzeestyle.livejournal.com]

I've been watching this go down through LJs, without having any association with any of it, and I'm *still* irritated enough by it to want to take down all my vids and go hide my head somewhere far away from these morons.

I'm thinking the solution here involves seeking these people out and flogging them repeatedly with their own keyboards. Because then, not only will they be unconscious and unable to do such stupid things, but if we hit them hard enough we can destroy the circuitry in the keyboards and they won't be able to type anymore. :-p

Linzee

[kittyb90.livejournal.com]

I just don't understand how someone can not get that a vidder has rights when it comes to their work. I mean, I realize vidders use clips from someone else's copyrighted material, but it's not like they're just slapping two or three minutes of unedited footage up on their site and calling it their own.

I don't vid, but I can tell that it obviously takes a lot of hard work and creativity. For someone to just say "screw you" and do whatever they want with something someone else created, and then refuse to admit that what they did might have been just a little bit wrong - that just blows my mind. Also makes me feel a little violent.