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sisabetDear LJ:
I apologize for any and all recent and not so recent freakouts I have had. My life is not hard nor is it a difficult life (despite the pain of "The Bionic Woman" not being available on DVD) and I need to stop and remember this from time to time to time.
Again - I have to say... if they let me have AIM at work, I would post much less often - witness my freaked-out posts - they all occur Monday - Friday from 9-6pm. Of couse, not spamming LJ is not a real reason to allow the installation of contraband computer programs.
Le sigh
Lum told me where I put Cappy's present. I've got a new plan to deal with travel and when it comes to vidding, I will accept the things I cannot change and friendslock all the rest. Or something.
So now I need to do something else - something not focussed on me. I want to do vid commentary except dammit - no vids here at work. So I will have to do this from memory.
Here goes -- Vid Life Lessons Learned or How to Suck Your Audience In and then Rip Out Their Heart: Tuesdays with Lum:
You all know what I am talking about: You download a vid and are bopping along and enjoying yourself and then! then! The axe falls and before you know it you have gone from laughing to crying to feeling incredibly...light. Like you have just had a major cathartic experience and the deal is - my friend - you have.
This happens in fic all the time and no one really questions it - you start a story and begin to care and invest in the characters through numerous ways and then - BANG - the big climax happens and it gets you because at this time - you care. You care because the author took the time to allow you to connect and laugh and empathize with these characters so when something happens to them it affects you.
Vids can work the exact same way - you just have less than 4 minutes generally to develop a relationship with a Character/Characters, make the audience invest and then give them the emotional payoff. It sounds impossible but we know it isn't because we have proof it can happen. We have![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
sockkpuppett's "It's the End of the World as We Know It" video.
Step One: Know your source. Love your characters.
We make fanvids for a reason - a reason that is not based on money or work or anything that drives the stuff we have to do. We do this because we *want* to express something and very often that something is propelled because we have an emotional connection to a character or an ensemble or just to everything a particular show is about.
Watch ItEotW and tell me you can't tell, right from the start, that the person making this vid did not love her people. There is an extreme tenderness in how Lum goes about introducing us to the cast. The song does not allow her to linger on anyone - so instead of loving slow shots - she hits everyone hard and fast but with affection and respect. There is not a hateful or bitter moment from the vidder in this entire vid. This is not to say the characters do not have those moments - but the vidder understands what each is going through. She has tremendous empathy for them. I can name so many specific moments from this vid - but the one that always touches me so much is Xander's slight smile in "The Zeppo" **- it is so brief - all of the moments in this vid zoom by - but is stays with you because you *get* that she *gets* it. She loves and cares about these people. This is essential because unless the vidder cares - why should you?
**ETA: there is a time change at this moment as well to let you know to give it special attention, but that level of technical discussion I really need to have the vid open in front of me to address.
I've seen advice to writers not to write a character they hate, unless by writing them, they come to a greater understanding of that character. I'd say the same possibly applies to vidders. If you feel extrememly antagonistic toward Angel - then maybe vidding him is not a positive step in your future. Of course, I've walked into a vid falling all over Spike and by the time I am finished with the vid I never want to look at him again. But then I get over it cause he is Spike and while I do suffer from Spike-fatigue, it never really lasts. But - if I feel that way about him? I shouldn't vid him until it passes - it'll just end in torture for us both.
Step Two: Pick the Perfect Song - It's Easy If You Try
Well actually, it isn't easy to find the perfect song. I think you possibly have to wait for it to find you. So Step 2 is actually a lesson in patience and recognizing that song when it does come strolling by.
See - if you have never seen this vid and only know the REM song - would you think that one day this song might make you cry? I mean - in the abstract the subject matter of the song is all about disconnect, it is all about pulling back and the world ending and devolving into chaos but the narrator feels fine about this. There is a curiosity to the narrator - almost surprise at this reaction but then he figures "It's time I had some time alone" and in that moment he connects with the audience. That is the big emotional revel in the song - "It's the end of the world as we know it...and I feel fine" overlayed by "It's time I had some time alone" because - yeah.
We understand then - information flys past us like it does the narrarator and we don't know what to stop and pay attention to and what to fight or what to protest and it is all just a tournament of lies. Answers are offered, solutions given and he rejects them all and curiously - he feels fine about it and so do we. He looks on the bright side - he needs some time alone. We all feel that way - it is called Adulthood. This song isn't so much about an insane world as it is about growing up and discovering the world has always been crazy.
Of course -- all of this connecting with the audience is mostly on a subconscious level - and that makes it effective.
When Lum set out to make this vid -- she understood this song perfectly. She understood how it worked and that yes - that there is a subtle emotional manipulation at the core of the song. This song is not "We Didn't Start the Fire" and she knew the exact *thing* (for wont of a better word) that it had that "We Didn't Start the Fire" lacked. She understood there was more to ItEotW than it just being the most massacred kareoke song in history.
This is key -- your song is the backbone of your vid. Poor song choice just cannot be overcome. Sometimes we have vids where the song choice was spot-on - but the vid is an interesting failure because the vidder did not understand the song. She knew the lyrics. She knew the beats. Sometimes she even grasped the metaphorical allusions in the song but she just missed its heart. There was a bridge that she needed to make between the emotional truth of a song and the visual array of her vid and that connection was not forged. As a result - her audience could have been eviserated and they were not. I think that is a shame.
One of the reasons Lum's vids fascinated me early on was because of her song choices. While "Rebel Yell" was an obvious choice (that she vidded in unexpected ways - especially at the time - so she transcended that) I don't know that any other person would have listened to this and thought "Oh wow. This is about the first five seasons of Buffy!" except for her. It is a testament to the vid that after watching it - the song will now always be about the first five seasons of Buffy.
Normally when we talk about a heartwrenching vid - the song is the giveaway. The song will be slow. It will be thoughtful. It will be a ballad. I think the fact that this song is *not* any of these things -- and yet it *is* - that is what makes it so effective.
Step Three: Lure 'Em In By Promising them Candy!
Let's talk about the vid now -- because here is the deal: this thing is such a great example of pacing and getting your audience to fall into your trap. See, you do not have to be an experienced vidwatcher to get this vid even though there are so many levels being explored here because Lum does something very scary at the beginning of the vid: She comforts you with familiarity and fun. She promises you a rollercoaster - but a fun one that you can understand and she is right there with you all the way. Then she smiles realllllllly big and you put all your trust in her hands. This is a mistake. She will destroy you. I tried to warn you.
How she accomplishes this looks really simple - but it isn't. She uses a combination of literal lyric interpretations with just enough of a goofy spin on some things to keep you both thrilled (by the sheer pacing and movement) and excited.
That's great it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes and aeroplanes, Lenny Bruce is not afraid
Right away she has you - you are hooked. You, being a silly fish, are so caught up in watching the vid you don't even know you are hooked. You are like Bruce Willis in the Sixth Sense. See - Lum is distracting you with her shiny pretty show! The song is maybe 10-20 seconds in and you see the Judge and YOU ARE GONE! It is too late to escape. There is an earthquake. Their are birds (well they fly) and snakes and dammit - OF COURSE THIS IS WHAT THE SONG IS ABOUT.
If you had time you might realize this. But - with tremendous love for Buffy - Lum is spinning you "Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn, world serves its own needs, dummy serve your own needs" and she hits each of these points and the viewer is having a blast. The viewer feels like Spike in the middle of a great big fight. The viewer is snarling at Adam and a government for hire and the viewer is with Buffy at turning up her nose at Maggie Walsh.
The viewer, much like Buffy, is doomed.
But Lum is throwing a party - a celebration of the Buffyverse - and you are all invited! Whee!
And you will come to the party and you will even bring a lovely hostess gift. And all the while you will be sitting there with a big fat hook in your lip that you just do not know is there.
Step Four: Bring the Pain
It is impossible to gut people without hurting someone. That someone is yourself. If the vid hurts you - then chances are someone else will share your pain. This vid is a stealth gut-punch vid. You don't know it is going there until it is too late and that makes it effective. You think it is going to be one thing and then Lum gently leads you in another direction.
The key is - she does this gently and so subtley that you do not notice. If she did it any other way - you might pull back and discover the hook in your lip and she does not want that. Not yet.
So she is very sneaky - she lets you grow up with Buffy - Notice the first "It's the End of the World as We Know It" are both bittersweet -- your first love leaving, and also funny -- Giles singing at the coffee shop. She gives both of the these moments the same world-fracturing power and in a way - they BOTH are moments of the world figuratively ending for the adolescent characters: the end of the affair and finding out the adults have a life.
These things are not easy - but they are normal and we all go through them to one extent or the other so they are universally understood and while at the time they are Earth-Shattering and horrible - looking back on it, the pain is very different.
Remember when we discussed understanding the song? Pay attention to what Lum is doing after the second chorus. The stakes are being steadily raised. She is doing this very stealthily and you don't notice it, but the pain is getting worse and then action is a bit more frenetic, but she is distracting you again! She is just conditioning you so you don't jerk in a minute and find out you are hooked.
The first "Time Alones" are fairly devastating for Buffy and the audience - she tries to stop Riley and she is actually fighting for something here only to watch it just out of her grasp and this... this is so much more grown-up and real than watching Angel leave. This is something she could have had and just could not hold together - she watches it fall apart. We feel this way not in adolescence, we feel this way as adults. So - again stakes are raised.
Then. Okay - I warned you. I told you that you were doomed. Let's set the stage -- You are watching the vid and you are having a blast and emotionally investing in these characters freely. Lum has made you feel a kinship with them borne of fun and empathy (we've been there!) and trust. She gets you to trust her with your heart.
Big Mistake. Big, big mistake. If you are gonna jerk and discover the hook - it will probably be here. Buffy walks in and finds her mother dead and Lum does not back off it at all. Suddenly "It's time I had some time alone" is not a silver lining statement but a deadening realization that you will have time alone and it won't be by choice. This is a reveal in her vid -- and also in life. The stakes are raised.
Step Five: Using a Very Sharp Knife...
In one moment the vid goes from being fun and games to being very very real and heartwrenching and none of this feels *jarring* in the bad sense - in the sense that it shakes you out of the vid. Yes - you are shaken, but you are even more firmly invested in the vid now then you were before. You care about all of these people, especially Buffy, and you are in this for the long haul.
How did she do this without jarring her audience in the bad way - throwing people from the vid? She pays attention to the song. Remember the refrain "It's time I had sometime alone" and the gradual maturity of the song? She sees that and jumps on it and makes it her bitch. There are gradual changes and where the song does not do what she wants it to do - she manipulates the visual in such a way to make you *think* you heard what she wanted you to hear. None of this is easy - but the end of the vid is where the payoff is. This is where she brings the big pain and no one is gonna jerk - but everyone knows they are hooked. You are willingly hooked because you need to go through this and the shots of the grieving Scoobies forshadowing the jump will always get to me.
So what have we learned today? Well, we have learned that when I am freaking out - distract me with vids. Even vids I can't watch except in my memory. Sigh,
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, You Go Solstice, and Just Hang In there New Years!
I apologize for any and all recent and not so recent freakouts I have had. My life is not hard nor is it a difficult life (despite the pain of "The Bionic Woman" not being available on DVD) and I need to stop and remember this from time to time to time.
Again - I have to say... if they let me have AIM at work, I would post much less often - witness my freaked-out posts - they all occur Monday - Friday from 9-6pm. Of couse, not spamming LJ is not a real reason to allow the installation of contraband computer programs.
Le sigh
Lum told me where I put Cappy's present. I've got a new plan to deal with travel and when it comes to vidding, I will accept the things I cannot change and friendslock all the rest. Or something.
So now I need to do something else - something not focussed on me. I want to do vid commentary except dammit - no vids here at work. So I will have to do this from memory.
Here goes -- Vid Life Lessons Learned or How to Suck Your Audience In and then Rip Out Their Heart: Tuesdays with Lum:
You all know what I am talking about: You download a vid and are bopping along and enjoying yourself and then! then! The axe falls and before you know it you have gone from laughing to crying to feeling incredibly...light. Like you have just had a major cathartic experience and the deal is - my friend - you have.
This happens in fic all the time and no one really questions it - you start a story and begin to care and invest in the characters through numerous ways and then - BANG - the big climax happens and it gets you because at this time - you care. You care because the author took the time to allow you to connect and laugh and empathize with these characters so when something happens to them it affects you.
Vids can work the exact same way - you just have less than 4 minutes generally to develop a relationship with a Character/Characters, make the audience invest and then give them the emotional payoff. It sounds impossible but we know it isn't because we have proof it can happen. We have
sockkpuppett's "It's the End of the World as We Know It" video. Step One: Know your source. Love your characters.
We make fanvids for a reason - a reason that is not based on money or work or anything that drives the stuff we have to do. We do this because we *want* to express something and very often that something is propelled because we have an emotional connection to a character or an ensemble or just to everything a particular show is about.
Watch ItEotW and tell me you can't tell, right from the start, that the person making this vid did not love her people. There is an extreme tenderness in how Lum goes about introducing us to the cast. The song does not allow her to linger on anyone - so instead of loving slow shots - she hits everyone hard and fast but with affection and respect. There is not a hateful or bitter moment from the vidder in this entire vid. This is not to say the characters do not have those moments - but the vidder understands what each is going through. She has tremendous empathy for them. I can name so many specific moments from this vid - but the one that always touches me so much is Xander's slight smile in "The Zeppo" **- it is so brief - all of the moments in this vid zoom by - but is stays with you because you *get* that she *gets* it. She loves and cares about these people. This is essential because unless the vidder cares - why should you?
**ETA: there is a time change at this moment as well to let you know to give it special attention, but that level of technical discussion I really need to have the vid open in front of me to address.
I've seen advice to writers not to write a character they hate, unless by writing them, they come to a greater understanding of that character. I'd say the same possibly applies to vidders. If you feel extrememly antagonistic toward Angel - then maybe vidding him is not a positive step in your future. Of course, I've walked into a vid falling all over Spike and by the time I am finished with the vid I never want to look at him again. But then I get over it cause he is Spike and while I do suffer from Spike-fatigue, it never really lasts. But - if I feel that way about him? I shouldn't vid him until it passes - it'll just end in torture for us both.
Step Two: Pick the Perfect Song - It's Easy If You Try
Well actually, it isn't easy to find the perfect song. I think you possibly have to wait for it to find you. So Step 2 is actually a lesson in patience and recognizing that song when it does come strolling by.
See - if you have never seen this vid and only know the REM song - would you think that one day this song might make you cry? I mean - in the abstract the subject matter of the song is all about disconnect, it is all about pulling back and the world ending and devolving into chaos but the narrator feels fine about this. There is a curiosity to the narrator - almost surprise at this reaction but then he figures "It's time I had some time alone" and in that moment he connects with the audience. That is the big emotional revel in the song - "It's the end of the world as we know it...and I feel fine" overlayed by "It's time I had some time alone" because - yeah.
We understand then - information flys past us like it does the narrarator and we don't know what to stop and pay attention to and what to fight or what to protest and it is all just a tournament of lies. Answers are offered, solutions given and he rejects them all and curiously - he feels fine about it and so do we. He looks on the bright side - he needs some time alone. We all feel that way - it is called Adulthood. This song isn't so much about an insane world as it is about growing up and discovering the world has always been crazy.
Of course -- all of this connecting with the audience is mostly on a subconscious level - and that makes it effective.
When Lum set out to make this vid -- she understood this song perfectly. She understood how it worked and that yes - that there is a subtle emotional manipulation at the core of the song. This song is not "We Didn't Start the Fire" and she knew the exact *thing* (for wont of a better word) that it had that "We Didn't Start the Fire" lacked. She understood there was more to ItEotW than it just being the most massacred kareoke song in history.
This is key -- your song is the backbone of your vid. Poor song choice just cannot be overcome. Sometimes we have vids where the song choice was spot-on - but the vid is an interesting failure because the vidder did not understand the song. She knew the lyrics. She knew the beats. Sometimes she even grasped the metaphorical allusions in the song but she just missed its heart. There was a bridge that she needed to make between the emotional truth of a song and the visual array of her vid and that connection was not forged. As a result - her audience could have been eviserated and they were not. I think that is a shame.
One of the reasons Lum's vids fascinated me early on was because of her song choices. While "Rebel Yell" was an obvious choice (that she vidded in unexpected ways - especially at the time - so she transcended that) I don't know that any other person would have listened to this and thought "Oh wow. This is about the first five seasons of Buffy!" except for her. It is a testament to the vid that after watching it - the song will now always be about the first five seasons of Buffy.
Normally when we talk about a heartwrenching vid - the song is the giveaway. The song will be slow. It will be thoughtful. It will be a ballad. I think the fact that this song is *not* any of these things -- and yet it *is* - that is what makes it so effective.
Step Three: Lure 'Em In By Promising them Candy!
Let's talk about the vid now -- because here is the deal: this thing is such a great example of pacing and getting your audience to fall into your trap. See, you do not have to be an experienced vidwatcher to get this vid even though there are so many levels being explored here because Lum does something very scary at the beginning of the vid: She comforts you with familiarity and fun. She promises you a rollercoaster - but a fun one that you can understand and she is right there with you all the way. Then she smiles realllllllly big and you put all your trust in her hands. This is a mistake. She will destroy you. I tried to warn you.
How she accomplishes this looks really simple - but it isn't. She uses a combination of literal lyric interpretations with just enough of a goofy spin on some things to keep you both thrilled (by the sheer pacing and movement) and excited.
That's great it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes and aeroplanes, Lenny Bruce is not afraid
Right away she has you - you are hooked. You, being a silly fish, are so caught up in watching the vid you don't even know you are hooked. You are like Bruce Willis in the Sixth Sense. See - Lum is distracting you with her shiny pretty show! The song is maybe 10-20 seconds in and you see the Judge and YOU ARE GONE! It is too late to escape. There is an earthquake. Their are birds (well they fly) and snakes and dammit - OF COURSE THIS IS WHAT THE SONG IS ABOUT.
If you had time you might realize this. But - with tremendous love for Buffy - Lum is spinning you "Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn, world serves its own needs, dummy serve your own needs" and she hits each of these points and the viewer is having a blast. The viewer feels like Spike in the middle of a great big fight. The viewer is snarling at Adam and a government for hire and the viewer is with Buffy at turning up her nose at Maggie Walsh.
The viewer, much like Buffy, is doomed.
But Lum is throwing a party - a celebration of the Buffyverse - and you are all invited! Whee!
And you will come to the party and you will even bring a lovely hostess gift. And all the while you will be sitting there with a big fat hook in your lip that you just do not know is there.
Step Four: Bring the Pain
It is impossible to gut people without hurting someone. That someone is yourself. If the vid hurts you - then chances are someone else will share your pain. This vid is a stealth gut-punch vid. You don't know it is going there until it is too late and that makes it effective. You think it is going to be one thing and then Lum gently leads you in another direction.
The key is - she does this gently and so subtley that you do not notice. If she did it any other way - you might pull back and discover the hook in your lip and she does not want that. Not yet.
So she is very sneaky - she lets you grow up with Buffy - Notice the first "It's the End of the World as We Know It" are both bittersweet -- your first love leaving, and also funny -- Giles singing at the coffee shop. She gives both of the these moments the same world-fracturing power and in a way - they BOTH are moments of the world figuratively ending for the adolescent characters: the end of the affair and finding out the adults have a life.
These things are not easy - but they are normal and we all go through them to one extent or the other so they are universally understood and while at the time they are Earth-Shattering and horrible - looking back on it, the pain is very different.
Remember when we discussed understanding the song? Pay attention to what Lum is doing after the second chorus. The stakes are being steadily raised. She is doing this very stealthily and you don't notice it, but the pain is getting worse and then action is a bit more frenetic, but she is distracting you again! She is just conditioning you so you don't jerk in a minute and find out you are hooked.
The first "Time Alones" are fairly devastating for Buffy and the audience - she tries to stop Riley and she is actually fighting for something here only to watch it just out of her grasp and this... this is so much more grown-up and real than watching Angel leave. This is something she could have had and just could not hold together - she watches it fall apart. We feel this way not in adolescence, we feel this way as adults. So - again stakes are raised.
Then. Okay - I warned you. I told you that you were doomed. Let's set the stage -- You are watching the vid and you are having a blast and emotionally investing in these characters freely. Lum has made you feel a kinship with them borne of fun and empathy (we've been there!) and trust. She gets you to trust her with your heart.
Big Mistake. Big, big mistake. If you are gonna jerk and discover the hook - it will probably be here. Buffy walks in and finds her mother dead and Lum does not back off it at all. Suddenly "It's time I had some time alone" is not a silver lining statement but a deadening realization that you will have time alone and it won't be by choice. This is a reveal in her vid -- and also in life. The stakes are raised.
Step Five: Using a Very Sharp Knife...
In one moment the vid goes from being fun and games to being very very real and heartwrenching and none of this feels *jarring* in the bad sense - in the sense that it shakes you out of the vid. Yes - you are shaken, but you are even more firmly invested in the vid now then you were before. You care about all of these people, especially Buffy, and you are in this for the long haul.
How did she do this without jarring her audience in the bad way - throwing people from the vid? She pays attention to the song. Remember the refrain "It's time I had sometime alone" and the gradual maturity of the song? She sees that and jumps on it and makes it her bitch. There are gradual changes and where the song does not do what she wants it to do - she manipulates the visual in such a way to make you *think* you heard what she wanted you to hear. None of this is easy - but the end of the vid is where the payoff is. This is where she brings the big pain and no one is gonna jerk - but everyone knows they are hooked. You are willingly hooked because you need to go through this and the shots of the grieving Scoobies forshadowing the jump will always get to me.
So what have we learned today? Well, we have learned that when I am freaking out - distract me with vids. Even vids I can't watch except in my memory. Sigh,
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, You Go Solstice, and Just Hang In there New Years!
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Date: 2004-12-22 08:50 pm (UTC)you feel extrememly antagonistic toward Angel - then maybe vidding him is not a positive step in your future.
Do people actually vid with hate? I don't think I've ever seen that, but then again I don't watch nearly as many vids as people who are avid vidders themselves.
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Date: 2004-12-22 09:17 pm (UTC)Well, probably because a) the amv community has become infinitely juvenile and b) it's rare that amvs actually have any real emotional depth. amvs are mostly just puppetry.
Fascinating post, though - one that really offers a great insight into the potential of vidding (one that I have never imagined before in amvs). I hope I can start and tap into this more myself, it's all quite wonderful stuff.
It's also incredibly refreshing to see someone talk excitedly and in an inspired manner about another person's video. In the amv community the only people who do so are non-creators (and usually with little real insight into the hows and whys). AMV Creators these days tend to be pretty bitchy (with things like "Oh yeah that effect is so easy and totally overdone" or "oh god not another show-x video" etc) if they are making any judgements. If not, they keep it simple and shallow ("that rocked" etc). It's partly the majority maleness of the community and partly the inherent competitiveness.
Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is I'm glad there is a collection of people who make fan vids who are interested in openly talking about these things and in sharing in the mutual delight of their hobby. That's very awesome :)
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Date: 2004-12-22 09:29 pm (UTC)I can truly say that everything that I know that forms a basis for how I vid, I learned from Luminosity. I've been thinking about this particular vid - how it works and why - for several years. I just decided to brain dump a lot of those thoughts into LJ today.
I feel as if I am not giving enough attention to the technical aspects -- how the external movement of the camera will bring you forward and then throw you to the side, the pacing of the individual shots and how they mesh (this is a superfast vid) because I do not have access to the vid here at work - this is all from memory alone. But - there are emotional truths and techniques and then there are the technical skills we manipulate to illuminate those truths, so any discussion is better than no discussion.
It's partly the majority maleness of the community and partly the inherent competitiveness.
Fanboys are a tough crowd - have you seen http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=ink_vids ?? I know the goal there is overcome a lot of the frivolity you mentioned. I know a lot of the members and they are discussion junkies.
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Date: 2004-12-22 09:42 pm (UTC)There used to be a lot more discussion of the qualities of certain videos in the amv community but it's something I haven't seen in a very long time. It's become so saturated and obsessed with the artifice of tech that nobody discusses things like this anymore. It's a sorry state of affairs which, when bemoaned, just makes the complainer sound like an old timer missing the golden years.
Anyway, that's something else. I think I'm just trying to articulate that I'm excited about the potential for live action videos to have something to say (or something to express), whereas with amvs right now (and the people making them) I don't see quite the same potential. My reasons are intricate and have a lot of factors but anyway... hooray for inspiring vidding.
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Date: 2004-12-22 09:51 pm (UTC)OH! We should start an amv/live-action-outreach program. You teach us techniques and pacing and characterization and we will continue prattling on about narration and plotting and it'll be a big party!
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Date: 2004-12-22 10:04 pm (UTC)I'd actually like to do a panel about amvs there, especially if I can offer some first hand experiences of the differences between the two. I've done a lot of amv panels so I'd love to do one at vividcon and the content of the panels I read about from last year made me all giddy. I'm a literature, media and film teacher, see, and while I am interested in these aspects with regards to my hobbies there just arent any conventions where they are talked about... well, until I found out about vividcon :D
So, yeah, there's a few reasons why I'm making an effort to become more involved with the vidding community - I think there's a lot of knowledge to be shared and if there's anyone in the amv community who likes to talk vid meta, it's me :P
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Date: 2004-12-22 09:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-12-22 11:37 pm (UTC)You found my present?
Date: 2004-12-22 09:34 pm (UTC)Will you still out out acrobatics in Batman/Catwoman encounters for Christmas? If it's really good you could show it at Meme's, too...
Re: You found my present?
Date: 2004-12-22 09:36 pm (UTC)Also...
Date: 2004-12-22 09:39 pm (UTC)Your name can be added to the tag if you want.
Re: Also...
Date: 2004-12-22 09:56 pm (UTC)I've totally lost Danya's phone number. She moved and I wrote it down in a book and then I moved and the book was reshelved and now I can't find it. It wasn't a big deal until my cell broke.