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There were kerfuffles and I missed them? Any new ones or was it the same old same old slash is of teh debil and we are all going to hell in new and inventive ways dealio? Cause not much skin off my nose if so.
Nummy Treat looks ripe for a meltdown and yet I still post. I am trying to let go. This is me stepping back. I want to talk vids and critiques and techniques and have an actual dialogue, but I feel like I spend half my time apologizing for taking vidding seriously and the other half assuring people that I am not judging them and *still* we have to deal with the egos.
Cutting for a rant and lots and lots of cursing (I'm frustrated). I don't rant often and I don't seriously rant about things other than Best Buy - like ever - but I am here.
See - I have an ego. I am proud of my videos. Damned proud. I have worked hard on them and dammit - they are (for the most part) exactly what I want them to be - and that did not happen by accident.
I have learned a lot along the way. Everything I have learned has been because someone has helped me. The more into the medium I became, the more resources opened up for me. This has been fantastic.
All I wanted to do was to get the list to move back to what it used to be so that people that want and need feedback to improve can. This is all I have fucking wanted for 2 fucking years. Goddammit.
And all of a sudden people start posting in droves about how we are dampening someone's creative spirit. About how we are not in charge of defining what is Art and what is not. About how they vid for "fun" and art and they don't have fun obsessing over every frame but still like feedback.
FUCK!!!!!!
YOU CAN ALL GO TO HELL!! YOU CAN ALL GO TO FUCKING HELL AND DIE GODDAMMIT!! YOU FUCKING BASTARD PEOPLE!!!!
::gasps for breath::
Okay - I never said one person is making art and another is not. I pretty much believe art is in the eye of the beholder. I did say we will get accused of being elitist bitches and guess what - ta da! Also - the term "braying asses" was used.
And then the moderator came on and stated this is the first "generalized" fucking warning?? WTF? Civil post, civil post, civil post, attack on poster - General Warning to Everyone. It does not compute. Delete the post and put the flamer on warning status. God. Read the fucking FAQ.
I have had it. I am sick of fucking molly-coddling people.
You don't obsess over your vid? Fine - GUESS WHAT - it shows. I don't have time to watch it. NEXT.
I hurt your feelings that I don't have time for your vid? Sorry, I am never happy about hurting anyone's feelings. I still don't have time for your vid. NEXT.
You vid for fun? Great, me too. We have different ideas about fun. NEXT
You think I am a pretentious snob? Okay. NEXT.
Let me see if I have this straight: Fun/Art vidders pretty much make any vid that they take a notion to do. Some vids are taken very seriously and they work really hard on them and others are just done on a lark and they really don't want to take the time to make those vids the best that they could do because that just isn't fun. And then they call themselves FART vidders.
Fine. Great. Go to town. I don't really care. You are obviously not the target person I am talking to about serious critique. NEXT.
Remember when this came up in video bootcamp? - someone submitted their vid to be critiqued and then had a fit at the suggestions saying she really did not enjoy working on a vid that hard and Dawn told that vidder "What part of bootcamp did you not understand? It is not Vidder's Day At the Spa" - I loved that.
Fuck. We haven't even gotten to real vid discussion yet - we are still talking about discussion and everyone has to be handheld and they all have to be assured and I am so tired of it.
My opinion is my own. Deal with it - or not. It doesn't matter - it is just a fucking opinion. I don't require consensus.
All I want to do is help people who are interested - seriously interested - in becoming the best vidders they can possibly be - because someone fucking helped me.
Now it has turned into "I don't want to work and y'all should shut up about this cause y'all are making me feel bad and it ain't right to make someone feel bad about art."
Which sucks for the people who are actually serious about this.
I'll be pissed off over in the corner. Fuck. Fuckity Fuck Fuck Fuck. I really thought we had a shot at making it work onlist. Fuck.
I am Drew Barrymore on the baseball diamond in "Donnie Darko."
FUCK!!!!!!
Nummy Treat looks ripe for a meltdown and yet I still post. I am trying to let go. This is me stepping back. I want to talk vids and critiques and techniques and have an actual dialogue, but I feel like I spend half my time apologizing for taking vidding seriously and the other half assuring people that I am not judging them and *still* we have to deal with the egos.
Cutting for a rant and lots and lots of cursing (I'm frustrated). I don't rant often and I don't seriously rant about things other than Best Buy - like ever - but I am here.
See - I have an ego. I am proud of my videos. Damned proud. I have worked hard on them and dammit - they are (for the most part) exactly what I want them to be - and that did not happen by accident.
I have learned a lot along the way. Everything I have learned has been because someone has helped me. The more into the medium I became, the more resources opened up for me. This has been fantastic.
All I wanted to do was to get the list to move back to what it used to be so that people that want and need feedback to improve can. This is all I have fucking wanted for 2 fucking years. Goddammit.
And all of a sudden people start posting in droves about how we are dampening someone's creative spirit. About how we are not in charge of defining what is Art and what is not. About how they vid for "fun" and art and they don't have fun obsessing over every frame but still like feedback.
FUCK!!!!!!
YOU CAN ALL GO TO HELL!! YOU CAN ALL GO TO FUCKING HELL AND DIE GODDAMMIT!! YOU FUCKING BASTARD PEOPLE!!!!
::gasps for breath::
Okay - I never said one person is making art and another is not. I pretty much believe art is in the eye of the beholder. I did say we will get accused of being elitist bitches and guess what - ta da! Also - the term "braying asses" was used.
And then the moderator came on and stated this is the first "generalized" fucking warning?? WTF? Civil post, civil post, civil post, attack on poster - General Warning to Everyone. It does not compute. Delete the post and put the flamer on warning status. God. Read the fucking FAQ.
I have had it. I am sick of fucking molly-coddling people.
You don't obsess over your vid? Fine - GUESS WHAT - it shows. I don't have time to watch it. NEXT.
I hurt your feelings that I don't have time for your vid? Sorry, I am never happy about hurting anyone's feelings. I still don't have time for your vid. NEXT.
You vid for fun? Great, me too. We have different ideas about fun. NEXT
You think I am a pretentious snob? Okay. NEXT.
Let me see if I have this straight: Fun/Art vidders pretty much make any vid that they take a notion to do. Some vids are taken very seriously and they work really hard on them and others are just done on a lark and they really don't want to take the time to make those vids the best that they could do because that just isn't fun. And then they call themselves FART vidders.
Fine. Great. Go to town. I don't really care. You are obviously not the target person I am talking to about serious critique. NEXT.
Remember when this came up in video bootcamp? - someone submitted their vid to be critiqued and then had a fit at the suggestions saying she really did not enjoy working on a vid that hard and Dawn told that vidder "What part of bootcamp did you not understand? It is not Vidder's Day At the Spa" - I loved that.
Fuck. We haven't even gotten to real vid discussion yet - we are still talking about discussion and everyone has to be handheld and they all have to be assured and I am so tired of it.
My opinion is my own. Deal with it - or not. It doesn't matter - it is just a fucking opinion. I don't require consensus.
All I want to do is help people who are interested - seriously interested - in becoming the best vidders they can possibly be - because someone fucking helped me.
Now it has turned into "I don't want to work and y'all should shut up about this cause y'all are making me feel bad and it ain't right to make someone feel bad about art."
Which sucks for the people who are actually serious about this.
I'll be pissed off over in the corner. Fuck. Fuckity Fuck Fuck Fuck. I really thought we had a shot at making it work onlist. Fuck.
I am Drew Barrymore on the baseball diamond in "Donnie Darko."
FUCK!!!!!!