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I am still cranky and misanthropic this week. I was hoping it was only a last week kinda thing, but no. I still hate people today.

I hate people today perhaps more than I hated people yesterday. Otherwise I would not be sitting here seething over my fList.

I should do some busy work at my desk - maybe finish my month-end report early.

Because we are all entitled to our own opinions about Buffy as a person. I just can't help it if your opinion makes me want to KILL!!

Also? That Nightwing scan not behind a cut tag? STILL PISSING ME OFF.

This is not a hormonal shift. I don't know what this is - I am not letting things go. I am trying to just immerse my self in the admittedly great things going on - but these little annoyances are driving me insane.

Okay - focus. I heard a line in a song by DJ Rap this weekend that I really liked "Respect my body 'cause it's where you came from" and that helps diffuse my Kill!Destroy response a bit.

I need other lines - hit me with your best shot. HEE!! That should be one of them.

::sings Pat Benatar in a vain attempt to lighten the fuck up::

Date: 2005-02-28 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merryish.livejournal.com
ilikebuffy!

In fact, in my incredibly OCD rush through the series, I have made it up to Tabula Rasa as of last night. That's 5.something seasons in...about a week and a half.

What are the bad people saying?
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From: [identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com
I think it was BtVS season six that I discovered vids. Most of the Buffy character vids I found--well, they weren't really Buffy character vids. They were ship vids, and they were generally Buffy/Spike or Buffy/Faith. And they were, as was appropriate for S6, painful, sad, difficult vids, vids about Buffy struggling, Buffy losing, Buffy giving in. And I love Buffy all the time, so I do love S6's lost Buffy; but I first fell in love with Buffy because she was pink lipstick as well as wounded eyes, fluffy fat teddy bears as well as swords and stakes. I loved Buffy because she wouldn't give in. Because she fought for herself and her friends and inspired them to fight, too. Because she was a fireman when the flood rolled back.

"Peacekeeper" was the first vid I'd seen that was about Buffy's strengths, instead of just her weaknesses; about her triumphs, not just her losses. It was about the love and the breaking chains and the mythology of Slayers, which I love love love; about the deserts in the heart and the vast free sunlit spaces the Slayers found when they escaped the dark caves.

It's not that I think it's a vid free of darkness; I read the "kill" on Buffy's smile as ominous, a warning that freedom wouldn't be easy, that history couldn't be erased, although Vonnie's take (contrasting them, the smile as a sign of liberation from killing) is also persuasive (and I love that your vids are rich enough to support multiple and contradictory readings). But so often in fandom we focus on the dark and the struggle and the drama of loss, and "Peacekeeper" felt like the same kind of gift "Chosen" did: here's the future. Are you ready to be strong?

Date: 2005-02-28 08:34 pm (UTC)
ext_1843: (rolandjake)
From: [identity profile] cereta.livejournal.com
Would it help if I told you those feral fan friends of mine loved "Two Words?" Really, they just mentioned it to me this weekend.

Date: 2005-02-28 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
Yes. ::sniff:: That helps a lot.

Thank you!

Date: 2005-02-28 08:56 pm (UTC)
ext_2366: (by catatonic1242: summery buffy)
From: [identity profile] sdwolfpup.livejournal.com
Lyrics, lyrics...um, how about:

and I believe every woman has made up her mind to win

or

I look straight at what's coming ahead and soon it's going to change in a new direction

or

I’d rather sleep my whole life away than have you keep me from dreaming

Ok that last one is kind of depressing but I love the song so much. It's 'Fairytale' by Sara Bareilles (http://www.sarabmusic.com/).
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
I want to be a fandom of two with you. Well, wait - we can let in other people - is this irony? I am intolerant of other people's intolerance toward Buffy?

I love that people have different takes on Peacekeeper and I love those takes so much I really don't want to say what my intent was on certain lyrics because it is really no more valid than another person's viewpoint... unless that person is a dumbass.

I will say that Peacekeeper is my love letter to Buffy and it morphed from what I originally intended it to be into something else when I realized what the end of Buffy actually signified (to me). It also made me come to terms with the fact that Spike is actually a pretty good guy, despite his fans, that Anya broke my heart, that I just want Giles's approval and Willow and Xander and Buffy will always get to me where I live.

Date: 2005-02-28 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
That last one is my favorite of the trio actually! Thanks!
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From: [identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com
I'm so relieved. I'm always worried after posting these comments that I'm being heavy-handed and humorless and somewhat freakish.

Well, wait - we can let in other people - is this irony? I am intolerant of other people's intolerance toward Buffy?

I don't care anymore. If they don't appreciate her properly, they can't have her. We want her and will cherish her. We're willing to share with a select group.

I love that people have different takes on Peacekeeper and I love those takes so much I really don't want to say what my intent was on certain lyrics because it is really no more valid than another person's viewpoint... unless that person is a dumbass.

Right. I am always of the opinion that the author can't tell me what she said, just what she intended to say--because the meaning of art is created by the interaction of audience and artwork.

When I went down to get coffee, I thought some more about caves and deserts, about caves as graves--fighting the Master, Buffy clawing out of her own grave at both ends of S6, the Hellmouth, the Initiative, the demonization of the first Slayer. The hole in the world in Angel. Sex with Spike in the basement, underground (crashing through the floor), in cemetaries and crypts and alleyways. I was thinking about "Peacekeeper" and "Restless" starting inside, in the closed-in interiors, and ending up outside in the desert, which is also inside the head, the smallest and the largest space simultaneously. Now I'm thinking about interiors and exteriors, what they mean in the Buffyverse. Buffy and Angelus's first meeting in "Innocence" had to take place in Angel's bedroom; when Joss tried to film it outside Buffy's house, it didn't work. When Buffy is fighting Angelus in "Becoming," the confrontation where she catches the sword in her hands is in the courtyard, but they're back inside when she kisses him, when she kills him. "Graduation Day"'s fight with Faith starting in the bedroom, smashing through the window, outside. Back inside for the (possibly shared) dream.

I don't have conclusions, but just the connections make me happy for now.

Date: 2005-02-28 09:45 pm (UTC)
ext_6428: (Default)
From: [identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com
Oh, that's nice. It reminds me a bit of Laura Burhenn.

Date: 2005-02-28 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
I think my icon sums it all up.

( also: whisper: it's totally ok to love Spike despite his fans. He's like Jesus that way. :D )
minim_calibre: (sunrise)
From: [personal profile] minim_calibre
I love your connections there.

Also, you'd better share her with me. No bogarting the Buffy.
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
I don't care anymore. If they don't appreciate her properly, they can't have her. We want her and will cherish her. We're willing to share with a select group.

Right. And now I want these people to be banned from talking to me about Buffy. Or even talking about it where I can accidentally see it. They just should go *poof* and stop it.

::irrational::

I just hung up my phone after dealing with a very difficult customer and screamed "Bitch!" and now my office is concerned. This is not unusual behavior in my office, but it is for me. So this irrational response is most likely due to other things. But - see, that makes me love Buffy more. I'm having a bad week and feel really petty toward my fellow human and I didn't even die to save the world and then got ripped out of heaven by my friends and now the only way for me to feel anything is to have extremely degrading sex with an evil soulless undead thing. I just am having a bad week.

How dare they criticize my Buffy!

::gasp::

Inside and outside - there is a vid in these visual connections, you know.

I need to finish out my DVD collection. Also - I can't wait for VVC.
From: [identity profile] just-eunice.livejournal.com
We're willing to share with a select group.

*waves hand while jumping around madly* Me! Me! Pick me! I will never understand Buffy hate. Not ever.

Date: 2005-02-28 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-eunice.livejournal.com
Aw crap..people are still hating on Buffy? *joins you in the seething with rage*
ext_6428: (otp)
From: [identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com
It is pretty much a self-selecting group. Anyone who loves my Buffy can come sit by me.
ext_6428: (otp)
From: [identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com
But - see, that makes me love Buffy more. I'm having a bad week and feel really petty toward my fellow human and I didn't even die to save the world and then got ripped out of heaven by my friends and now the only way for me to feel anything is to have extremely degrading sex with an evil soulless undead thing. I just am having a bad week.

Exactly! Frankly, it takes a lot less than relentless pursuit by a hellgod, death, and unwelcome resurrection to make me curl into a ball and collapse.

Inside and outside - there is a vid in these visual connections, you know.

Really? Besides "Peacekeeper"? Cool! Make more Buffy vids!

I need to finish out my DVD collection.

You do. Wait -- your BtVS DVDs or your vid DVD? Although it doesn't really matter, because I support you in both of these endeavors.
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From: [identity profile] batwrangler.livejournal.com
::sits down::

>but I first fell in love with Buffy because she was pink lipstick
>as well as wounded eyes, fluffy fat teddy bears as well as swords
>and stakes.

This is why seasons 1-3 are more appealing to me. I loved that the apocalypse always ended up taking second seat to how difficult getting through high school was. There are things that happen in the later seasons that I loved and things I hated -- most of what I hated had to do with writing choices that made Buffy harder to like, but 1) my friends don't always have to make the choices I would have wanted them to make in order to stay my friends, and 2)the girl did some incredible things in circumstances where it would be terribly easy to find oneself wanting.
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
I never ever once found Buffy hard to like.

Maybe it is because I was older and had already gone through so much of what she was going through (although not *exactly*) and she was always so much nobler and stronger and just more Buffy than I ever was.

I still want to be her when I grow up and I am 5 years older.
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From: [identity profile] batwrangler.livejournal.com
I watched Buffy starting with the pilot (I was 29 +1 at the time) and for the first three years I was hopeless in love with the entire show. I could hardly stand to wait a week for the next episode so I could spend more time with them.

That feeling waned over the later seasons, but never enough for me to hate any of them. One of the things that surprised and delighted me about the series was how it could transform dislikable characters into likable ones (Faith, Spike, Wesley).

I want to be Zoe from Firefly when I grow up. She has it all (gorgeous, incredibly good at what she does, great job, great family) plus not much angst -- because angst is yummiest when it is not happening to me. (I've already had more than enough to last me forever.)
ext_12542: My default bat icon (Default)
From: [identity profile] batwrangler.livejournal.com
Because I am math-challenged, for "29 +1" above, please read "29 -1". Thank you.

Date: 2005-03-01 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rubywisp.livejournal.com
it's totally ok to love Spike despite his fans. He's like Jesus that way. :D

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... I love you. Bwah.

Date: 2005-03-01 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nataliadarimini.livejournal.com
I'm sorry you hate people today.

Maybe this isn't the best time to be bugging you...
But I just wanted to say that I saw your Weeping Willow Invisible Man Vid today and absolutely fell in love. You are amazing.

Um, that's all. I'll, ah, let you get back to your hate now.

Date: 2005-03-01 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmap.livejournal.com
Oh, that is a shame. I don't know if this will cheer you up at all, but way, way, back when you needed a code to start a livejournal account, I posted a silly little BtVS/QaF crossover scenario anonymously in a thread to one of your posts, and you gave me a code. Since then that plotbunny has continued to chew on me, and so far this: http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=rachelmap&keyword=Recovery&filter=all is what I've come up with based on that. It's a silly thing, as I said before, but a few people seem to be enjoying it, and they wouldn't be if you hadn't given me that code.


...


Well, I had a point, but I forgot it... Oh, yes. Here's hoping you feel better soon.

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