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Have I mentioned lately that Work is kicking my ass? Cause it is.

Valerie made me a Mod at BoB - I'm trying not to let the power go to my head - luckily no work is really involved - mainly hanging around and looking pretty. I can do that. Maybe I need a new Avatar?

Spillowgel. All for the Spillowgel:

I started storyboarding a new Spike/Angel vid today. Actually storyboarding is way to advanced a term for what I have now - I am working on a vid construction outline for a new Angel/Spike vid. Clipping will take forever. I'm hoping to be laying clips by the time the finale airs. I'm concerned about song choice - it will either work and be extremely moving or it will be hokey and stupid and obvious. It could be brilliant or brilliantly terrible - I'm pretty much shooting in the dark - but I gotta go with what I see. Also - the song isn't by Willie Nelson. I could get in trouble here...

Sooo - research mode - gotta think about the boys and the dynamics and the souls - cause it is all about the souls. I need essays and thoughtful comments and people that want to discuss the parallels in the journeys. I am up for deep thoughts - also - was "Dead Letters" ever finished? It is intergral to my thought process.

I've got other vids in the works - I'm finishing "Middle if the Road" this week and I've got two AtS vids in the works - and I also have "Mission Temple" on hold until the end of the series...it is just - I want to go back and really hit on the S/A dynamic in a way I just skated around in "Closer." Plus, people like it.

Date: 2003-03-11 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xanphibian.livejournal.com
Storyboards are hard! (I just had to say that... I love that icon)

I write out all the lyrics to a song and write down what clips I want to use for them.. but I don't know exactly what storyboarding is. I've heard that there is a storyboard feature on SOME program out there. I thought it was Premiere, but I can't seem to find it there. So maybe I made that feature up in my head. Or maybe it's only available on 6.5. Did I imagine it? And if not, is it worth it, or would I be better off doing that sort of thing by hand?

I'm wondering if this was covered in the bootcamp thread.. which, I swear I read every post of, I just have a short memory. I'm sorry. You're going to yell at me now, aren't you? *cringe*

:-D

Date: 2003-03-11 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stakebait.livejournal.com
Can't wait to see!

Date: 2003-03-11 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkledark.livejournal.com
I started storyboarding a new Spike/Angel vid today.

Eeep! I'll write faster. You rule.

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Date: 2003-03-11 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
Storyboards are hard and this is a great topic for bootcamp (we actually have some homework coming up dealing with song/vid construction - I am really looking forward to it).

I tend to storyboard in many different ways but most often with a legal pad and a ton of scribbles (cause if I don't write it down, I will forget it).
Lyrics and musical changes and then underneath - what do I see - clip choices/editing decisions - all subject to change once you are finally in the timeline. It does help to give you focus - and if a project is going to be delayed - to remind you what the hell you were going to do "there" and "there."

I know Premiere has many functions that I am unaware of - but the storyboard one is something I haven't seen. You can arrange the clips in the timeline to show visually what scene they represent...as far as Premiere 6.5, Hmmm... I'll ask Cerdd_Gwen about it...

Date: 2003-03-11 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
Grovel.

Date: 2003-03-11 04:23 pm (UTC)
luminosity: (Default)
From: [personal profile] luminosity
I'm here for ya, babe!! I'm calling dibs on beta!!!

One of the wonderful things that came with my Pinnacle was a storyboarding program. I've just scratched the surface of it.

Storyboarding is HARD! heeee

Date: 2003-03-11 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renenet.livejournal.com
There's a storyboard function in Premiere 6.0 (and presumably other, later versions). Choose File > New > Storyboard. For instructions/explanation, look in the Help info under the category "Editing Video," then choose "Editing a video program" then "Creating a storyboard." It seems to be a way of viewings your clips as icons and organizing them in a drag and drop fashion in a window to create a rough cut of your project which you can then "automate to timeline" to transfer stuff onto your timeline and really start working with it.

I think of the storyboarding process as more of the organizational and conceptual work of planning the vid in terms of structure, themes, point(s) of view, timing, clip choice, etc. — all of the preparatory stages up to and including beginning to clip out scenes, at which point I'd be testing and revising my earlier planning. So this "Storyboard" function in Premiere could only touch on the very last piece of that, when I'm working with the clips themselves. I suspect it might be more useful if we weren't so tied to the music we're working with. If you're working on a regular movie, documentary, short, commercial, etc. you might be interested in a window where you could drag and drop and easily mess with the order of the footage you're using. Vidders do so many quick changes timed to the music that it doesn't seem as useful in that application. YMMV. (And, okay, could my pronoun reference be less consistent in that paragraph? I...we...you...one might doubt my credentials as an English major.)

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Date: 2003-03-11 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xanphibian.livejournal.com
Thank you :) And yes, I can see where the storyboard function wouldn't really do much good. You couldn't very well jot down a few notes on your interpretation of something in relation to the music and lyrics and which clips might potentially illustrate a particular theme if it is only an extra clip window. Might come in handy for *something*, though, I'm sure, and thank you for pointing it out to me.

Date: 2003-03-11 07:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] heresluck
I need essays and thoughtful comments and people that want to discuss the parallels in the journeys.

I am all about the discussion. Let's talk. You have my e-mail, and I'm also on AIM.

You may have already seen this, and it may or may not be the kind of analysis you're looking for, but I did post a musing at paper cup a while back that's more or less about Spike/Angel parallels (and failed parallels) -- you can find it at the site.

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Date: 2003-03-12 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
Great Icon!!!

I'm calling dibs on beta!!!

Well of course you are gonna beta! Heee

Speaking of which... holler at me tonight between the Angel Festivities - I've messed with "Middle" and it's looking - finished - but unfocused. I'm in a quandry. Or a tizzy. Maybe both.

Storyboarding on a computer program - what does that look like?

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Date: 2003-03-12 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
There's a storyboard function in Premiere 6.0 (and presumably other, later versions). Choose File > New > Storyboard. For instructions/explanation, look in the Help info under the category "Editing Video," then choose "Editing a video program" then "Creating a storyboard." It seems to be a way of viewings your clips as icons and organizing them in a drag and drop fashion in a window to create a rough cut of your project which you can then "automate to timeline" to transfer stuff onto your timeline and really start working with it.

Whahuh? I have a storyboard feature on Premiere? Really? Then why do I have that stack of McDonalds napkins that are covered in scribbles and notes? Oh right - cause I have to clip the scenes I want. Whew. Your right - I don't know how useful that would be. A computer program where I could make written notes over the audio line would be useful - especially for bridges and instrumental portions of the music. Currently I'm righting down "Beat - dadadadum-guitar squall" to signify those changes. I think an actual visual representation would make my outlines more consise.

Date: 2003-03-12 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
You rule in many different and varied ways.

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Date: 2003-03-12 10:10 am (UTC)
luminosity: (Default)
From: [personal profile] luminosity
It looks like a line of neato pictures, and you get to guess what you're doing.

And I'll holler. (feeling very smug since we watched it last night)

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Date: 2003-03-12 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
And I'll holler. (feeling very smug since we watched it last night)

Well - Dawn was on call at the hospital last night and I forgot to check - but as of this AM I was downloading it. It is not considered Spoilage if I watch it as the same time as the rest of America since the power's that be in Memphis deem midnight a good time to show new episodes of Angel - is it? Cause you know me - always trying to walk that straight and narrow line.

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Date: 2003-03-12 10:53 am (UTC)
luminosity: (Default)
From: [personal profile] luminosity
re the straight and narrow spoilage line: If I watch Buffy on Monday right after I download the wildfeed, I don't consider it spoilage. I consider it fantastic good luck to be able to throw the CD into the player and watch it by myself, with nobody bugging me. I felt that way last night when I watched Angel. I was calm, collected, excited and alone, if that makes any sense. No phones ringing, no kids chatting, nothing cooking ... except ME!

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Date: 2003-03-12 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
And now I know where you went last night

See - I didn't think watching early was spoilage either, but the kid thinks otherwise. Luckily it is Spring Break and he is at his dad's so there is no one to complain (I believe you are well aware of Dawn's spoiler policy).

Sooo - I got up this morning and checked out the NG and that thing that I thought I saw - was that what I thought it was? I'm downloading it but I don't want to get to excited until I know it is what I think it is and I'm at work right now so there is no way to check - so is it?

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Date: 2003-03-12 11:07 am (UTC)
luminosity: (Default)
From: [personal profile] luminosity
4x14 is ATS, yes.

I believe Dawn's spoiler policy is just like mine. I like to watch other people watch Angel and Buffy. And then I can say "aha!!"

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Date: 2003-03-12 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
4x14 is ATS, yes.

There was another file there - not an Angel file - but an unaired episode (I suck at being obtuse - it said it was 7x17 - is it? Did you see that? Am I imagining it again? )

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Date: 2003-03-12 11:14 am (UTC)
luminosity: (Default)
From: [personal profile] luminosity
don't believe it. it's a fake. it was rooted out like the rat it is yesterday. bastids.

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Date: 2003-03-12 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisabet.livejournal.com
Arrggghh. Damn that was evil. And not the fun kind of evil either. That was Adam-Evil.

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Date: 2003-03-12 01:28 pm (UTC)
luminosity: (Default)
From: [personal profile] luminosity
and why did the bastard waste *his* valuable time doing it? Was it worth it? I mean, he was found out within an hour. If, by Adam-Evil, you mean ugly and badly-put-together, with a certain death to follow? Yeah.
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