What I was wondering is whether you'd have better luck approaching them on fronts where you probably already agree.
When it comes to my family - personally? No - this will not work at all because I am pretty much not allowed to discuss politics with anyone because it either *upsets* them or it will lead to an argument. Since I believe everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe -- it is hard for me to argue effectively for the right to argue. If the discussion is closed then so be it.
However -- our nation as a whole does not have the same luxury and I think some of the approaches you raise are interesting and will work because *everyone* wants the soldiers to be safe. Socialized Medicine is not the evil to the working class that a lot of the dems seem to think it is - there is no knee jerk except at the word "socialized" -- we were all raised very conscious of Communist Ideas.
Seriously - I watched a training film in first grade on how to tell if your school is overtaken by Russians. The first thing your new teacher will do is tell you it is okay to cut up the flag. This was 1981.
But *universal* healthcare and the right to medical care is something else entirely -- we just have to respond to the Republican Propaganda Machine that is beloved and trusted because they will make the lack of protective Armor in Iraq the fault of the democrats (who right now can't be at fault because we control nothing) and they will lie about healthcare becausae it is in their best interest to do so and they will smear anyone who says otherwise. Even thought they are in total control -- they are the victims. It plays well with a society of victims.
And if you don't believe we are conditioned to feel victimized - then watch an afternoon of talk shows. America is fast becoming the sum of our reality TV.
It is a difficult road ahead but we have to take it and we need to start by exposing the lies where we can and by talking about it. Also by not watching Wife Swap.
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When it comes to my family - personally? No - this will not work at all because I am pretty much not allowed to discuss politics with anyone because it either *upsets* them or it will lead to an argument. Since I believe everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe -- it is hard for me to argue effectively for the right to argue. If the discussion is closed then so be it.
However -- our nation as a whole does not have the same luxury and I think some of the approaches you raise are interesting and will work because *everyone* wants the soldiers to be safe. Socialized Medicine is not the evil to the working class that a lot of the dems seem to think it is - there is no knee jerk except at the word "socialized" -- we were all raised very conscious of Communist Ideas.
Seriously - I watched a training film in first grade on how to tell if your school is overtaken by Russians. The first thing your new teacher will do is tell you it is okay to cut up the flag. This was 1981.
But *universal* healthcare and the right to medical care is something else entirely -- we just have to respond to the Republican Propaganda Machine that is beloved and trusted because they will make the lack of protective Armor in Iraq the fault of the democrats (who right now can't be at fault because we control nothing) and they will lie about healthcare becausae it is in their best interest to do so and they will smear anyone who says otherwise. Even thought they are in total control -- they are the victims. It plays well with a society of victims.
And if you don't believe we are conditioned to feel victimized - then watch an afternoon of talk shows. America is fast becoming the sum of our reality TV.
It is a difficult road ahead but we have to take it and we need to start by exposing the lies where we can and by talking about it. Also by not watching Wife Swap.